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Old 04-15-2011, 06:33 AM   #15
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Those tires won't fit on the rims I have on my 05 Safari. They are way too skinny. I bought them from Tire Rack and had to send them back.
The rim width range is supposed to be 5 to 6.5 inch. What is the width of your rims? They are a skinny tire for sure but that shouldnt be a prob I would think. I will be getting my tires any day now. Are they just too skinny for your eyes? I need to be prepared before I accept them.
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:54 AM   #16
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How much pressure did you put in the tires and does the trailer ride any rougher?
We run Lucy's new Michelin 16 E's at 72 psi. We also ran our Maxxis 15 E's 72 psi. We ran Lucys OEM Goodyear 15 D's at 65 psi.

We did not notice any difference, whatsoever, in ride harshness when going from the D's to the E's at the higher pressure. We have now towed Lucy with the load range E tires for almost 60,000 miles. We have not experienced any damage due to a hard ride.

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Old 04-15-2011, 09:04 AM   #17
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They are both made in china now, so not much difference, unless you go to an E rated maxxis. I just ordered 4 Yokahama RY215 tires that size. They are the best tires in our size I could find.
I bought GYM in 2010 and they are made in USA, says it on the tire. Maxxis makes really good E rated truck tires but I've never had their trailer tires. I think there is more to all the tire failures than brand, or the contry they are made in. I prefer made in USA just because. ST tires are only rated for 55-60 mph, or so. I was told that is the cause of alot of failures. If you load an ST to 80% or more, put it on a hot highway, and drive 70mph, it will fail at some point. I think the only way to stop the chance of failure is new rims, and LT tires. Thats what I'd do if I hauled the miles some of you do, but I dont get to go that much.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:22 AM   #18
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Goodyear moved production of their Marathons to China.

Maxii is a Thai company and their tires are made in Thailand.

I still think that the manufacturing location does not have as much to do with a quality tire as the company that stands behind them. I think Goodyear should address the problems in a better manner. I just put on a new set of Maxii LRD tires. Give me a year or so and I can tell you what I think. Mine are from Thailand. I did read somewhere that even Maxii was looking into China for production but I don't think it has changed yet.
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Saw Michelin LTX tires on the new Eddie Bauer edition. Need new tires so I will give the Michelins a try.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:33 AM   #20
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The rim width range is supposed to be 5 to 6.5 inch. What is the width of your rims? They are a skinny tire for sure but that shouldnt be a prob I would think. I will be getting my tires any day now. Are they just too skinny for your eyes? I need to be prepared before I accept them.
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The rims that came with my 05 Safari 28' has the GYMs on them . Original to the trailer. They are now six years old and although I have seen no trouble with them I know it is time to change. They were made in Canada but everywhere I look I see nothing that gives me confidence in the Chinese made ones. I think the tire will fit older smaller rims that others have used them on. The dealer I went to called his supplier with the specs on the tire and they told him it would not fit properly. I don't think it would be safe on my rims even if it looked o.k. The tire, however, is a great looking tire and I was disappointed. The max rim size is 6.5" and I was told my rims are bigger than that. Let me know how it works out for you.
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Like the thread starter, our GYM tires are due for replacement. In our case, it's because of age (5 yrs), vs. mileage or failure. Reading through the posts, it appears that some of the higher mileage travelers are upgrading to 16" wheels w/Michelin LTX tires. Best price I could find for this option is roughly $500 for 5 wheels, plus $1000 for 5 tires for a total of $1500+.

I'm wondering if a lower cost, but reasonable option for those who travel less, but are still concerned about safety and avoiding damage is the following combination:
  • Maxxis M8008 (load range E)
  • Aluminum valve stems
  • Tire Pressure Pro monitors
  • Centramatics

This package is roughly half the price of the 16's, and of course, you may still want/need the monitors and Centramatics on the 16's.

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I think that you are on the right track with the Maxxis E's. We had two sets of the prior to going the 16" Michelin route. The first set went 28,000 miles before experiencing tread separation on 3 of the tires. The second set only went 14,000 before one tire had developed tread separation. That may have just been one bad one. I probably would have stuck with the Maxxis if it were not for the fact that we do between 15 and 20,000 miles per year. It seemed like I was buying new tires every time I turned around.

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For folks looking to stay away from GYMs, but want to stay at 15", you may want to look at a tire from Continental called the Vanco 2, which is built to meet the weight specs of heavy Eurovans, etc. They make a 225/70/15 in load range D. I have a set of these on my flat bed trailer and am quite happy.

Continental USA Car / Light Truck / SUV -Vanco™2

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For folks looking to stay away from GYMs, but want to stay at 15", you may want to look at a tire from Continental called the Vanco 2, which is built to meet the weight specs of heavy Eurovans, etc. They make a 225/70/15 in load range D. I have a set of these on my flat bed trailer and am quite happy.

Continental USA Car / Light Truck / SUV -Vanco™2

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I have been using the Vanco2 tires for about 2 yrs. These tires and GoodYear Cargo tires are the only ones that have a rating high enough for me to feel safe about. You do lose 1/2" in height. Just wish I could afford the gas and time to go more. Had to go back to work because of our great economy!
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Changing to 16'' wheels and LT tire for me is not an opition. I could change tires every two years for the next 10 years for the price of the switch.
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I don't think changing to 16" rims and LTX is quite that bad. We just did it for $500 for 5 Sendel rims including shipping. The LTX 225/75/16 were $795 after rebate for all 5. Another $80 for installation gives a grand total of $1375. I sold the old Marathons and rims for $325 for a net cost of $1050.
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I don't think changing to 16" rims and LTX is quite that bad. We just did it for $500 for 5 Sendel rims including shipping. The LTX 225/75/16 were $795 after rebate for all 5. Another $80 for installation gives a grand total of $1375. I sold the old Marathons and rims for $325 for a net cost of $1050.
Can't find that price or current rebate anywhere (June 2011) for LTX e load rated black wall, so count yourself lucky for scoring that deal! Also, many folks might have to add another couple of hundred to size up their roto-chocks when moving from 15" to 16".
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It seems like the tires went up in price a bit at TR and DTD from 2 weeks ago. I believe the Michelin rebates are a regular on-again, off-again sort of deal. When I first started looking a month ago there was no Michelin rebate, so if you call either on-line dealer they can probably tell you when the rebate is coming back.

On the rims, I had to source the Sendel T03-66655 from 2 different places since no-one had all 5 at the time. I paid $88 each plus shipping from Tredit and Gearworks Mfg.

FYI: I called Michelin yesterday and was told that 55 psi would give me 2060 lbs carrying capacity on each 225/75/16 LTX MS tire.
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Check out the BF Goodrich Commercial T/A.
Back in the arely 1990s or so Goodrich wanted out of the tire business.
They had the best truck tire on the market.
Michelin basically sent Goodrich a blank check for the tire division and trashed their truck tire technology as they (Michelin) was having a terrible time with their truck tires.
Fast forward.
Today Michelin owns Goodrich and Uniroyal (to the best of my knowledge)
Costco has good prices on the the BF Goodrich Commercial T/A but it is a 16 inch tire (with a 99 mph speed rating, very important).
The T/As are a little less expensive in price but every bit the Michelin in quality. The only step up from the Commercial T/A is the Michelin XPS Rib, period.
Yes I have the Commercial T/A on my 31 foot 84 Excella and have had absolutely no problems with them. I am not the only one.
In fact they have only needed additional inflation once a year, in the spring.
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