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Old 08-22-2016, 05:44 PM   #43
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Put Maxxis on our 28' Classic 2 years ago and have towed about 15k. No problems, no issues. High speed towing always causes problems regardless of tires. So far 2 upside, down and side ways along highway, stuff everywhere along with dog running around. Really not the way I want my trip to go. Been in a car being passed by people towing at 75++ trailer just a dancing behind tow vehicle. Just because you can drive 80 in Idaho doesn't mean you can tow at 80.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:23 PM   #44
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:41 PM   #45
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What would a person pay for a well built quality tire when standing on the side of the road surveying the damage that just occurred from a tire with a catastrophic failure?
Sometimes being frugal has its drawbacks......
Good luck
Funny enough when I replaced the GYM with Maxxis tires the Maxxis were about $25 a tire more than the GYM's.

Have towed for 11 years, thousands of miles (some years as much as 12,000 tow miles) and not had an ST tire blow out while towing (touch wood) - did have one do a slow early fail though. On the other hand in the same time frame I have had 2 LT tires blow out on vehicles at highway speed.

To many factors for tire failures for me to suggest one type has a higher chance of catastrophic failure over the other.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:47 AM   #46
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What would a person pay for a well built quality tire when standing on the side of the road surveying the damage that just occurred from a tire with a catastrophic failure?
Sometimes being frugal has its drawbacks......
Good luck

$7-8k damage for losing a single tire should be an attention getter, as said. With that, no maker of premium tires offers an ST. That should also be an attention getter.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:55 AM   #47
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That's alright.
I'll pass.
I'm good.
I'm convinced there is really no such thing as a good quality, long life ST tire.
I'll stick with my 16" LT tires.
16" wheels and LT tires: $1,400-
Peace of mind: Priceless-
What he said!!!!
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:05 AM   #48
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There will NOT be a third time!
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Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:12 AM   #49
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With that, no maker of premium tires offers an ST. That should also be an attention getter.
These tire threads are a hoot. So I do a google search for "premium tire brands", and what do you know, I find a listing of what a source considered the top 5 premium brands, and guess what? Goodyear was on the list, and they make an ST tire. But this thread is about Maxxis ST tires, and I will consider them when it's time to replace my current tires. Note: I prefer towing at 65 MPH or less.
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I also tow at 65 mph or less for following distance, stopping distance, and fuel economy, but on Load Range E 10-ply 16" LT tires...
Everybody's got a choice, and everybody's got an opinion based upon personal experience whether good or bad which shapes and molds their decision making.
I didn't get it either as long as I was having good luck with my Goodyear Marathons, thinking they were better than the Carlisle ST tires on the previous trailer. They weren't.
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I didn't get it either as long as I was having good luck with my Goodyear Marathons, thinking they were better than the Carlisle ST tires on the previous trailer. They weren't.
I get it just fine thanks.
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We've had good luck with our GYM tires for the past 2+ years. However, we are typically pretty light packers. That said, we have an appointment tomorrow to replace our old GYM tires with 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires. He's already mounted the tires and can't wait to see us.

Will likely have the tire shop remove and dispose of the old GYM tires, because they are 3 years old by the date code. If anybody else tried to use them it would probably just lead to sadness and despair, and we don't want to be a part of that.
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These tire threads are a hoot. So I do a google search for "premium tire brands", and what do you know, I find a listing of what a source considered the top 5 premium brands, and guess what? Goodyear was on the list, and they make an ST tire. But this thread is about Maxxis ST tires, and I will consider them when it's time to replace my current tires. Note: I prefer towing at 65 MPH or less.
Totally agree.
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Mr. Donahoe, if you'd bothered to read the article, you would know that Maxxis are NOT Chinese made, nor are they cheap - they're comparable in price & quality in ST to Carlilse & better than GYM (which ARE Chinses made now), & in LT to Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Yokohama, etc. as used by my fellow Porsche Club members on their Cayennes, & others on other vehicles.

Note that folks used to say the same types of things about Bridgestone, Yokohama & the other Japanese made tires, but now they're considered among the best in the world for all types of vehicles.

However, I too agree & had stated above that there are serious quality problems with Chinese made tires & other automotive products.

Again, Maxxis are made in Indonesia & Maylaysia under tight supervision by the Taiwanese parent company - as are some Michelin tires made in Southeast Asia nowadays - but then, ignorance of the facts is bliss, I suppose.

Thanx so much for chiming in again with erroneous info.!

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Funny enough when I replaced the GYM with Maxxis tires the Maxxis were about $25 a tire more than the GYM's.

Have towed for 11 years, thousands of miles (some years as much as 12,000 tow miles) and not had an ST tire blow out while towing (touch wood) - did have one do a slow early fail though. On the other hand in the same time frame I have had 2 LT tires blow out on vehicles at highway speed.

To many factors for tire failures for me to suggest one type has a higher chance of catastrophic failure over the other.
I couldn't agree more, & my point exactly.

While ST vs. LT tires on here tends to bring out the passions as high as religion or politics, it really is each person's choice to pick which tire type & make that they're most comfortable with using.

Ergo, I did provide links to both ST & LT tires from Maxxis, in addition to the initial article from Trailer Life for the information of all.

However, what I find most maddening on this & any other tire or hitch thread, are the folks who feel it is somehow helpful or appropriate to just blow in a useless opinionated statement with no meat other than "I think....." - just because they apparently have nothing else to do!

At least Mr. Donahoe's last post has added some useful information, & as the OP, I would really appreciate folks adding their experiences as in the above quoted post & Mr. Donohoe's last post - rather than just chiming in with your opinion of China.

At least state what your reasons & experience is on the issue, because your empty opinion is really just useless dribble, & does nothing to inform the members on here, & I say that for all topics on here, no matter the subject.

I don't have to agree with you on your point(s), but I don't think anyone really cares what someone blows in & says they hate this or that, don't like something, etc. Frankly, it's a waste of your & everyone's time to type that message!

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My information comes with owning and running big trucks - and trailers, 7 axles with 100,000 gross and 100-125,000 miles / year, in the late 1960's it was Goodyear, early 1970's we went to Toyo, later to Bridgestone, all were good for the time ,later the Michelin and Bridgestone on the drives would go 150,000 miles and be at 50 percent, trade them in and get 50 percent back, never had many tire problems.. With 14,500 lbs on the steer axle you don't want any,as it could be your life, so you see I do know a little about tires, and I didn't read about it in an advertisement..cheers, tj..
Great TJ, at least this adds some meat to the potatoes!

I too have been driving cross country since the 1960's, but not as a professional, & agree with the changes in the preferred tire makers changing over that time. Perhaps Maxxis is now worth consideration for such a change now, as I & others have had good luck with both their ST & LT tires of late. That's up to you.

I'll still agree to disagree on my preference for putting good quality ST tires on my trailers, & am happy with Maxxis for both their ST on my Avion T20 & their LT on my 88 VW Camper Van.

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