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Old 11-10-2010, 02:14 PM   #43
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Brian.

According to Airstream production records, for your serial number, they installed 5000 pound axles, on your coach.

That same rating applies to either electric brakes or disc brakes, for the 30 foot classic.

Andy
Wow, That's very interesting! I wonder why it shows a GVW of 8700 and a
GAWR of 4200?

As I mentioned I had previously emailed AS to see if they could help me sort this out. I haven't heard back yet, but if they do conform what you are saying, I will ask if they can give me something in writing.

Today, I went out to our trailer to see if I could see any sort of identifying marks. I could not. All I could see what the handwritten "5000" which appears to be white paint marker on the lead axle. no stamped ID numbers, no spot welded ID tags.

Of course I can only see the front and bottom faces of the leading axle, and just the bottom face of the trailing axle because i is sandwiched between tanks.

I did look through the book that came with our trailer and found a documeny from AS called:

"Certfied Performance Checkout" list. It provides various component sertial numbers and includes axle info.

The original axles are show as being

Henschen serial no 3-035167 and serial no 3-035166.

I'm going to see if I can track down what capacity those would be.


Of course it is still possible that info. may be incorrect - or that perhaps AS first installed those then changed them before releasing the trailer to a dealer but didn't update the info in the manual or on the traler tags. I don't see any Henschen ID tags welded to the axle beams.

All a bit confusing! Thank you very much for your help. If I don't get any sort of email reply from AS directly I will try to get someone on the phone.

I guess its not that big a deal, but I'd like to know what I have, and possibly get correct labels if the present ones are incorrect - I suppose it could affect resale value of the trailer too if/when I sell the trailer.


Brian.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:55 PM   #44
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Brian.

According to Airstream production records, for your serial number, they installed 5000 pound axles, on your coach.

That same rating applies to either electric brakes or disc brakes, for the 30 foot classic.

Andy

Hi Andy,


Well, I dunno, something strange going on here!

The other day I got a call from "Jim" at Jackson Centre in response to the email I sent to them asking about the axles on my trailer.

Jim tells me that His records show that my trailer was built with Henschen 4200# axles. The certificate in the manual that came with my trailer does show Henschen, and gives the serial numbers.

His sources must be different that yours it seems! Unfortunately for me!

I read the numbers to Jim that I have in my manual, and he told me they corresponded to 4200# axles. (Of course I cannot confirm that they are what is under my trailer.)


I did tell him that when I went under the trailer, the only markings that I found was a painted number "5000" that I was able to see on the lead axle.


Jim seemed to place no credence in the painted numbers and told me that no matter what axes were now under the trailer, Henschen or possibly Dexter if they had been subsequently changed, there definitely would be proper ID markings on the axles.

I'll go take another look, but when I went under the trailer, equipped with flashlight, wire brush and magnifying glass, the painted "5000" was certainly all I could see.

Of course once installed, there are many faces of the axle beam that one cannot see so perhaps there is some hidden ID.

Seems like I will never resolve this until possibly if/when the axles are removed for some reason.

Anyway, I plan to live with what I have for now, whatever the heck they may be, but if ever I need to change, I guess it would make sense to use 5000# axles.


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Hi Andy,


Jim seemed to place no credence in the painted numbers and told me that no matter what axes were now under the trailer, Henschen or possibly Dexter if they had been subsequently changed, there definitely would be proper ID markings on the axles.

I'll go take another look, but when I went under the trailer, equipped with flashlight, wire brush and magnifying glass, the painted "5000" was certainly all I could see.

Of course once installed, there are many faces of the axle beam that one cannot see so perhaps there is some hidden ID.

Brian
Take a mirror, on a telescoping rod, and a flashlight with you the next time that you go under the trailer. Shine the flashlight beam onto the mirror and have it reflect onto the axel to pick up any markings that are between the verticle portion of the axel and the tank enclosures.
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Wow, That's very interesting! I wonder why it shows a GVW of 8700 and a
GAWR of 4200?

As I mentioned I had previously emailed AS to see if they could help me sort this out. I haven't heard back yet, but if they do conform what you are saying, I will ask if they can give me something in writing.

Today, I went out to our trailer to see if I could see any sort of identifying marks. I could not. All I could see what the handwritten "5000" which appears to be white paint marker on the lead axle. no stamped ID numbers, no spot welded ID tags.

Of course I can only see the front and bottom faces of the leading axle, and just the bottom face of the trailing axle because i is sandwiched between tanks.

I did look through the book that came with our trailer and found a documeny from AS called:

"Certfied Performance Checkout" list. It provides various component sertial numbers and includes axle info.

The original axles are show as being

Henschen serial no 3-035167 and serial no 3-035166.

I'm going to see if I can track down what capacity those would be.


Of course it is still possible that info. may be incorrect - or that perhaps AS first installed those then changed them before releasing the trailer to a dealer but didn't update the info in the manual or on the traler tags. I don't see any Henschen ID tags welded to the axle beams.

All a bit confusing! Thank you very much for your help. If I don't get any sort of email reply from AS directly I will try to get someone on the phone.

I guess its not that big a deal, but I'd like to know what I have, and possibly get correct labels if the present ones are incorrect - I suppose it could affect resale value of the trailer too if/when I sell the trailer.


Brian.
Brian.

I contacted the former sales manager of Henschen.

Unfortunately, all the records of the Henschen serial numbers, remain with GKN.

Therefore, I cannot help you with your axle rating information.

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Brian.

I contacted the former sales manager of Henschen.

Unfortunately, all the records of the Henschen serial numbers, remain with GKN.

Therefore, I cannot help you with your axle rating information.

Andy
Andy,

Many thanks for your help in trying on my behalf!

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Take a mirror, on a telescoping rod, and a flashlight with you the next time that you go under the trailer. Shine the flashlight beam onto the mirror and have it reflect onto the axel to pick up any markings that are between the verticle portion of the axel and the tank enclosures.
Good idea! I have several such mirrors and will give it a try - seems to me that there was very little space between the axle beam and the tanks though.

If that doesn't work I'll just forget about my attempt at detective work and enjoy camping!


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