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Old 11-05-2014, 11:58 AM   #29
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NTB doesnt have a problem with putting LT tires on trailers.

"Michelin's best-selling light truck tire. It can shoulder heavy loads and support trailers, while giving long wear and true all-season traction."

http://www.ntb.com/tires/sku-detail/...uId=sku1220131

This is the exact tire I put on my trailer, bought them from NTB.
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:53 PM   #30
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I put 16" michelin's on my rig, I'm not looking back. My decision.

So here's a slightly related observation. All cars and pickups have standard and possibly an optional tire size on the door jamb or somewhere, OK.

So what about all the vehicles that have extreme over sized wheels and tires some to the point where they have to install modified suspensions.
I am of the same opinion. I decided to go with 16" wheels and Michelin LT's. I don't particularly care about any tire warranty.

My past experience has been that the OEM 15" Marathons on my 2005 Safari 25FB provided me with the excitement of three catastrophic failures (blowouts) on one trip with about 12,000 miles on them. I replaced the Marathons with Maxxis E's. The first set got me 28,000 miles before rampant tread separation. I went with another set of Maxxis. These only got about 10,000 miles before the tread separations began.

I decided to make the switch to 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires and Centramatic balancers. I had these installed at Jackson Center.I towed that Safari 60,000 miles without a single tire issue of any kind. When I traded her in, the tires did not appear to have hardly any wear.

My conclusion: ST tires are junk. If I had gone ahead and done the switch on the old Safari when she was new, I would have saved about $1,000 and a lot of grief and aggravation.

We took delivery of the new 2015 FC 25FB on October 2nd. I installed the new 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires on November 3rd.

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http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/detail/ry215

These LT tires are advertised on-off road and truck and trailers. They come in a 15" and 16" size. You don't need to replace them in 5yrs as they can be retreaded for many yrs. You can spin your trailer in circles until the hubcaps fall off as I've done it. They are tuff tires and their sidewalls are stiffer and thicker than LRE Marathons!!!!

ST tires are for utility trailers!!!!



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Old 11-05-2014, 01:32 PM   #32
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RY215 Commercial Light Truck Tires | Yokohama Tire Corp.

These LT tires are advertised on-off road and truck and trailers. They come in a 15" and 16" size. You don't need to replace them in 5yrs as they can be retreaded for many yrs. You can spin your trailer in circles until the hubcaps fall off as I've done it. They are tuff tires and their sidewalls are stiffer and thicker than LRE Marathons!!!!

ST tires are for utility trailers!!!!



I just took a look at the Yokohama RY215's. They look very interesting. When I replace the Michelins, I will be looking very hard at these. They appear to be a good replacement for the Marathons on the 15" OEM wheels.

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Old 11-05-2014, 01:34 PM   #33
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RY215 Commercial Light Truck Tires | Yokohama Tire Corp.

These LT tires are advertised on-off road and truck and trailers. They come in a 15" and 16" size. You don't need to replace them in 5yrs as they can be retreaded for many yrs. You can spin your trailer in circles until the hubcaps fall off as I've done it. They are tuff tires and their sidewalls are stiffer and thicker than LRE Marathons!!!!

That is nice tire but doesn't give my trailer a lot of margin for error if my math is correct.
GVW 8400#
8400 * 0.9 = 7560# (my last scale ticket for axles is 7400#)
7560 \ 4 = 1890# each tire (max weight)
1890# * 1.1 = 2079# (10% margin for error)

The tire is rated at 2040# (assuming it would be rated like an LT tire). It would get the job done but probably closer than what is recommended. Sort of pushes me towards the 16" tire E rated tire.
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Old 11-05-2014, 02:24 PM   #34
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My new resolution is to ignore all tire threads until my next set is needed, spring 2020. Maybe the subject will be sorted out by then!!

That said, I haven't kept a lot of resolutions over the years ...
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:56 PM   #35
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That is nice tire but doesn't give my trailer a lot of margin for error if my math is correct.
GVW 8400#
8400 * 0.9 = 7560# (my last scale ticket for axles is 7400#)
7560 \ 4 = 1890# each tire (max weight)
1890# * 1.1 = 2079# (10% margin for error)

The tire is rated at 2040# (assuming it would be rated like an LT tire). It would get the job done but probably closer than what is recommended. Sort of pushes me towards the 16" tire E rated tire.
The 16" tire is LRF which is rated 3170# a tire.
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Old 11-07-2014, 07:35 PM   #36
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I'm not a "tire expert" but I kinda figured one of the reasons we're told there is no warranty on our Michelins is due to the fact that our Airstreams are not equipped with odometers.


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Old 11-07-2014, 08:19 PM   #37
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I'm not a "tire expert" but I kinda figured one of the reasons we're told there is no warranty on our Michelins is due to the fact that our Airstreams are not equipped with odometers.


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You're absolutely right, I hadn't thought of that. Michelin relies on the dealers to record the milage when they mount the tires so they know how many miles you run the tires.
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:39 PM   #38
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Actually, they measure the remaining thread depth to calculate warranty. At least, that's what they did on my BFG's.
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Actually, they measure the remaining thread depth to calculate warranty. At least, that's what they did on my BFG's.
Interesting. Everyone should take with a grain of salt what I have to say about tires. I worked in the industry from 81 to 97. 17 years in these modern times is almost like a century of change. It just seems like yesterday.
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My new resolution is to ignore all tire threads until my next set is needed, spring 2020. Maybe the subject will be sorted out by then!!

That said, I haven't kept a lot of resolutions over the years ...
This hasn't been sorted out since the invention of the tire. What makes you think people have made progress since then?
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:50 AM   #41
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The Michelin limited warranty has non mileage provisions. Here is a copy for your dissemination.

http://www.michelinman.com/mediabin/...omise_Plan.pdf

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The warranty apparently lasts for a maximum of six years after installation and or tire tread depth remaining when an incident occurs.

Since Airstream installs a specific Michelin tire on their trailers (Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 rated 2,680 pounds @ 80 psi P/N 05681) using a specific SenDel T03-66655T wheel, I installed exactly that tire and wheel combination. The Eddie Baurer models have had these as an option for years, they are standard on the 2015 31' Classic model 30 and the factory will install them on any 15" wheeled Airstream trailer.

Sounds like I have grounds to say it a proper tire for my Airstream.
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