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Old 11-04-2014, 09:47 PM   #15
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Thanks for sharing this. Can you give us more details.
Take a look at the "has anyone had a LT tire fail" thread. I wrote all about it there.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:57 PM   #16
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I had the 16", same as supplied by AS now. On my Classic I have had 3 failures, all on well maintained properly inflated tires. All were on the 3rd axle, all were sidewall failures during or shortly after tight turns. The sidewall ripped or the bead failed. One tire failed just days after being replaced. The Goodyear is a cargo tire in a whole different league. Makes a lt tire look like a balloon!
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Old 11-05-2014, 02:54 AM   #17
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I had the 16", same as supplied by AS now. On my Classic I have had 3 failures, all on well maintained properly inflated tires. All were on the 3rd axle, all were sidewall failures during or shortly after tight turns. The sidewall ripped or the bead failed. One tire failed just days after being replaced. The Goodyear is a cargo tire in a whole different league. Makes a lt tire look like a balloon!
Just to be clear. Your 3 tire failures were with the Goodyear Marathons or with the Michelin 16 inch?
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:50 AM   #18
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Michelin 16" LT....
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:24 AM   #19
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I have received written confirmation from 3 insurance companies that they will not cover losses whenever there is a misapplication of equipment. My own carrier sent me this info without being asked.... but after a yearly inspection due to my agreed value policy. I removed the Lts and went with the Goodyear g26 cargos on both 34' trailers. Not worth being uncovered due to a poor tire choice!
I looked at the Goodyear cargos in a 15" but the aspect ratio looked like it might drop the trailer an inch or more. Did you have that experience and if so, what do you think of ground clearance? Did you also have to make adjustments to your rig to stay level or was there no change?
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:45 AM   #20
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Please explain why the Goodyear Cargo is any better. They are LT tires, and not even a E rating, but a D rating, so why would they be any better than the Michelin E rating LT's?

I can understand the LTX as it is actually a P Metric tire, but my 16" are LT's and so why would they be considered a "misapplication"?
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:07 AM   #21
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Last year Michelin recalled some 16" M/S LT tires. There were three of the recalled tires on my trailer. Michelin replaced the entire set with new 16" M/S2 LT tires.
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:42 AM   #22
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A couple of thoughts on tire warranties and RV trailers:

Potentially, an LT tire on a trailer is a misapplication. LT tires are designed for use on trucks, and a trailer is not a truck. On the other hand, there is a way to accommodate an LT tire for trailer usage.

The question becomes one of whether or not the tire manufacturer would warrant an LT tire on a trailer - and that isn't quite the same question as whether or not an LT tire on a trailer is a misapplication. I am sure you could ask various people from the same tire manufacturer and get different answers. As a tire expert, I can argue both sides.

It is thoroughly understandable that tire dealers might balk at applying an LT tire to a trailer. They would be put on the spot if something bad were to happen.

While tire warranties are issued by the tire manufacturer, the warranty itself is administered by the tire dealer. Not only do tire manufacturers make deals outside the warranty (and that might appear to the uninformed to be the tire manufacturer accepting a warranty claim), tire dealers, too, can do things outside the warranty restrictions. In other words, be careful drawing conclusions about a particular situation involving a warranty. Some situations are covered under what is euphemistically called "Customer Satisfaction".
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:30 AM   #23
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It's kind of a mmot point as ST trailer tires have no warranty to speak of.

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My ST Tow Max tires on my Safari not only have a warranty, they had a roadside assistance plan. You can get these at a local dealer or Airstream will install them at the factory. (that's where I first saw them)

Towmax - warranty

I had 4 of them installed about 3 1/2 years ago, at a dealer near my home. I paid about $120 - $130 per tire, mounted and spin balanced.

I replace the old GYM spare this past summer, so all 5 of my Safari tires are Tow Max. The price was about the same as the first 4 tires.

I'm happy with the performance and wear so far! I would recommend them.
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:45 AM   #24
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All these tire threads are truly disheartening. The GYMs on my new-to-me unit were five years old, it was time for a change though they still looked like new (stored indoors by previous owner and by me; very few running miles).

So, after what I thought was due diligence, I decided to switch to Michelin 15 inch LTXs. Total bill for the new wheels and tires, not insignificant. But at least you can breathe easy, right?

Well, maybe not based on what I'm reading. It is very hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. A quick distillation of comments:

-Michelin LTX is not a real LT tire; it's a passenger car tire.
-It's unlikely that Michelin will honour their warranty, since they're being used on a TT. A mis-application.
-Possible that trailer insurance will be invalid in event of a tire-related catastrophe, due to tire mis-application.
-It is untrue that Michelin LTX failures haven't occurred; a number are mentioned in this thread.
-Airstream puts Michelin LTX tires on new Airstreams, though perhaps not with Michelin vetting..

I'm truly more confused now than ever on this subject.
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"The question becomes one of whether or not the tire manufacturer would warrant an LT tire on a trailer - and that isn't quite the same question as whether or not an LT tire on a trailer is a misapplication. I am sure you could ask various people from the same tire manufacturer and get different answers. As a tire expert, I can argue both sides." ..................
To me, the issue mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, that a misapplication of tire could also void insurance coverage, is far more important than a tire warranty being voided. A $200 tire is not a big loss to a trailer owner. However, an insurance company looking at a large $$$$ payout for a wrecked trailer would certainly be looking for a way out.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:42 AM   #26
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Does anybody really care about the tire warranty on a trailer? Put good tires on it. My experience with tire warranties, including Michelin, is that they pretty much never cover exactly what went wrong anyway.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:05 AM   #27
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Does anybody really care about the tire warranty on a trailer? Put good tires on it. My experience with tire warranties, including Michelin, is that they pretty much never cover exactly what went wrong anyway.
Unless you buy the road hazard warranty, you are right. No matter what happens to the tire, they come up with things like "it was run underinflated", or their favorite, "you hit something".

The second one was what I was told about my BFG failure this summer. I told the dealer I must have been driving 60MPH in reverse when I hit it because it was the road side rear tire. That's when I got the blank stare.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:31 AM   #28
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I put 16" michelin's on my rig, I'm not looking back. My decision.

So here's a slightly related observation. All cars and pickups have standard and possibly an optional tire size on the door jamb or somewhere, OK.

So what about all the vehicles that have extreme over sized wheels and tires some to the point where they have to install modified suspensions.
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