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12-13-2015, 09:16 AM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Laramie
, Wyoming
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It could be my imagination
After six years of running the original GYMs on our trailer, I replaced them with Michelin LTs. I went with the 15 inch ones. It might be my imagination, but the trailer feels more secure with the Michelins. This is especially true when surpassing my personal speed limit of 63 mph when passing someone.
FYI. The GYMs were a year old when installed by the factory on our new trailer. So they were actually 7 years old when replaced.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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12-13-2015, 10:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Our change to Michelins gave me a sense of security that I never had with the GYMs, so much so that I went from constantly watching the trailer TPMS out the corner of my eye, to leaving the TPMS at home.
Too much of a sense of security perhaps, but after many thousands of miles without thinking about tires as we go down the road, the trip is at least more pleasant.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
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12-13-2015, 01:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2010 27' FB International
La Crescent
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I did the same. Now inflating the tires to 50psi. Do notice a slight difference in how it tows.
Jay
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12-13-2015, 02:23 PM
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begorragirl
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Denville
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I change tires every three years no matter what. Our Bambi gets 22k a year on it.
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12-14-2015, 12:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Caravel
Woodstock ON
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 62
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We have been running since new 10,000+ miles on dealer installed Michelin "235/75 15" EXTRA LOAD" tires (the word MICHELIN is white on these tires) which according to Michelin's website, can carry an elephant at 13,000 pounds. We inflate to no more than 50lbs cold. These tires show a sidewall obviously thicker than the Michelin tires on our GMC pickup. They are visibly different in shape at the sidewall.
Since we are discussing confidence in Michelin tires, we agree. We have a high degree of confidence in these tires, and while our dealer joked about "not needing to carry a spare", we do anyway just so we know where it is.
Properly balanced, wheel nuts torqued before every trip, we don't think about tires any more!
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12-14-2015, 01:10 PM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antique Pedaler
After six years of running the original GYMs on our trailer, I replaced them with Michelin LTs. I went with the 15 inch ones. It might be my imagination, but the trailer feels more secure with the Michelins. This is especially true when surpassing my personal speed limit of 63 mph when passing someone.
FYI. The GYMs were a year old when installed by the factory on our new trailer. So they were actually 7 years old when replaced.
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After 7 years new GYMs would probably ride better too.
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12-14-2015, 01:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I honestly can't tell a difference in the way my trailer tows with the new LT tires, but I have extreme comfort and peace of mind.
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12-14-2015, 03:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2012
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No you feel it, but so will your trailer. Shake the "s???" out of it. For one I think real trailer tires are best.
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12-14-2015, 04:18 PM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Laramie
, Wyoming
Join Date: Sep 2002
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One thing I should add is this. So far I have pulled the trailer with the new Michelins three 300 days. At the end of each day I have reset the lug nuts torque. After the tried day there was only one nut out of specs.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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12-14-2015, 05:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Chelsea
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
After 7 years new GYMs would probably ride better too.
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You went from seven year old POS tires to brand new higher-quality tires, I would hope you'd notice an improvement!
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WBCCI# 5766
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12-14-2015, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
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Re: Our Airstream's tire history
2005 19' Bambi (4,500 lbs, single axle):
- Two of three original GYMs failed (ST225/75x15D) -- Tire age = 3 years, approx 7,500 miles, tire pressure = 65 psi.
- One of two Maxxis replacement tires failed (ST225/75x15E) -- Tire age = 2 years, approx 5,000 miles, tire pressure = 80 psi.
- Two Michelin XPS Ribs (LT225/75x16E) have had absolutely no problems -- Tire age = 5 years (and still running), approx 35,000 miles (to date), tire pressure = 80 psi. For safety, these two XPS Ribs will probably be replaced at age 6-7 years with 60-75,000 miles on them, and over half of the tread still remaining. (At 35,000 miles, the tread shows almost no visible wear.)
Detailed tire history for our Bambi: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ml#post1503775
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12-14-2015, 07:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
2005 19' Bambi (4,500 lbs, single axle):
- Two of three original GYMs failed (ST225/75x15D) -- Tire age = 3 years, approx 7,500 miles, tire pressure = 65 psi.
- One of two Maxxis replacement tires failed (ST225/75x15E) -- Tire age = 2 years, approx 5,000 miles, tire pressure = 80 psi.
- Two Michelin XPS Ribs (LT225/75x16E) have had absolutely no problems -- Tire age = 5 years (and still running), approx 35,000 miles (to date), tire pressure = 80 psi. For safety, these two XPS Ribs will probably be replaced at age 6-7 years with 60-75,000 miles on them, and over half of the tread still remaining. (At 35,000 miles, the tread shows almost no visible wear.)
Detailed tire history for our Bambi: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ml#post1503775
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Have you weighed your bambi to know how much load your tires are actually carrying?
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12-14-2015, 09:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Total weight on our Bambi's axle was 4,280 lbs, fully loaded, weighed while on an 8-month, 13,000 mile roadtrip. Sorry, I didn't weigh each wheel individually.
For those unfamiliar with the XPS Rib, it has a 1-ply steel sidewall, 3 steel radial belts, weighs 49 pounds, and is rated to carry 2,680 lbs @ 80 psi. Our two tires were made in Germany.
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12-14-2015, 10:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Sequim
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 525
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Do the 15" rims with LT tires fit in the wheel well of a 23' FC?
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12-15-2015, 08:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
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I had to buy 16" wheels as Michelin did not have the tire that I wanted in 15 inches......worth the expense but I loved the moon wheel covers I had for them.
Neil
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12-15-2015, 02:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Total weight on our Bambi's axle was 4,280 lbs, fully loaded, weighed while on an 8-month, 13,000 mile roadtrip. Sorry, I didn't weigh each wheel individually.
For those unfamiliar with the XPS Rib, it has a 1-ply steel sidewall, 3 steel radial belts, weighs 49 pounds, and is rated to carry 2,680 lbs @ 80 psi. Our two tires were made in Germany.
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Thanks for the update. That really shows how the single-axle trailers put a big load on the tires. My dual axle 25FB was at 5960 pounds on the axles last time I weighed it.
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