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Slats · 06-12-2016, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Cool. So, what tires did he sell you and what model of trailer did you put them on?

Vanguard ST 225/75 R15. 1966 Tradewind.

Now, let the constructive criticism begin.

Actually, the back and forth about tires, tow vehicles, axles, paint choices, mosquito repellants, etc., is kind of fun to read. Maybe this is so because of my 40+ years as a lawyer, having seen a lot of emotion masked as reason, as well as reason melting into emotion, borne of frustration for failing to get a point across.

By the way, I'm thinking of getting a pet. What would be the better choice - a cat or a dog? Which would look better dyed blue?

AtomicNo13 · 06-12-2016, 06:10 AM

Troublemaker! Dog and I like your blue rims!

Tireman9 · 06-15-2016, 09:00 AM

RE Tongue weight. If you use "load equalizer" to shift weight back onto the TT, you can't claim the reduction in the TT GVWR when talking about tire load because the load isn't really on the ball.

The side force on the multi axle trailer tires is called "Interply Shear" Simply Google "Interply Shear tires" for more info. This can result in an extra 24% side force trying to tear the belts off the tire. Best thing you can do is to run the tire sidewall max pressure and to increase the tire load margin with larger tire or higher Load Range with higher inflation.

Careful with the LTX line some are LT type and some are passenger type.

"XL" at the end of the tire size is a tip off that the tire is really a "passenger type tire" which means it gets the 9% reduction is load capacity stated on the tire.

h70man · 06-19-2016, 06:21 AM

To the Many wonderful people who have posted on this subject thanks to each of you. I do feel compelled to add my two cents worth. Safety is everything! Aircraft manufactures build planes strong enough to withstand three times the stresses they are EVER expected to encounter.
Thus we have millions flying safely every day. Its my position to error on the side of caution. I will soon be replacing my wheels and tires with a set that will far EXCEED minimum requirements. Its your life, enjoy it!
Live long and prosper.

rmkrum · 06-19-2016, 06:05 PM

Yup. When it comes to safety, there is no such thing as overdoing it...

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**Action** · 06-19-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rmkrum

Yup. When it comes to safety, there is no such thing as overdoing it...

Actually there is.

Exceed the load capacity by too far with bigger tires and wheels and the trailer will suffer. Run the tire pressure up too far and there will be issues.

It isn't exceed this threshold and you are good. It is be in this window and you ar good. Outside the window in either direction and expect an adverse result.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action

rmkrum · 06-19-2016, 07:25 PM

I agree that exceeding specifications or running too much tire pressure is not good for the AS. But that's not exactly what in thinking when I say safety should be heavily on our minds.

For example, I can be 'safe' with some anti-sway hitch setup. I have been accused of overkill using a Hensley design on a 22 footer. For this example, I'm just fine with the overkill. It kept my blood pressure down when I'm towing. That's priceless..if that's overdoing, so be it.

I agree that there is a range of reasonable on anything. I tend to play toward the end of the range that leads to maximum safety--like a much better fire extinguisher, for example.

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xrvr · 06-19-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Action

Actually there is.

Exceed the load capacity by too far with bigger tires and wheels and the trailer will suffer. Run the tire pressure up too far and there will be issues.

It isn't exceed this threshold and you are good. It is be in this window and you ar good. Outside the window in either direction and expect an adverse result.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action

Issues but not safety issues.

MOS · 06-20-2016, 04:52 AM

WOW , 68 responce to my post and never really got an answer to my question!
Thanks for all the interesting reading

mike

OTRA15 · 06-20-2016, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MOS

WOW , 68 responce to my post and never really got an answer to my question!
Thanks for all the interesting reading

mike

Tiring, eh?

xrvr · 06-20-2016, 05:05 AM

Your answer, no.

SteveSueMac · 06-20-2016, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MOS

WOW , 68 responce to my post and never really got an answer to my question!

Thanks for all the interesting reading

mike

#7 was the first that gave you a definitive answer to your question.

Tireman9 · 06-20-2016, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MOS

I think I have read that Michelin is coming out with a 15" e rated ST tire .
Is that true or BS ??
If so when ?
thanks

How about a source. If you read it on the internet then we all know how reliable that information is.

I have no special knowledge of Michelin or any other tire company's plans. Been retired since 2010. But if anyone thought about the topic they could figure the probability.

1. Michelin does not have a line of ST type tires at present.
2. Developing an completely new product line can cost well over $Million
3. Why would a conservative company like Michelin, with a reputation to protect enter a market where it is well documented that over half of the users have one or more tire in overload i.e. abuse the product?