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Old 06-11-2016, 05:00 PM   #57
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This Web site does NOT give any information on wt. Ratings, or any other useful information
All they ask is for the type of auto, And where you live for a closer dealer.
AND absolutely nothing for use in trailers.

Michelin has a good tire, but their web-site is a waste!

You can derate, arate or brate. There are a great many of us with these tires on our Airstreams enjoying the heck out of them every time we pull them down the road . And frankly the last thing I want to do is talk someone into installing them on their trailer. However it gets tiring to read all this, but,but,but when the evidence on the road by people actually using them is contrary.

And yes for whatever reason it is difficult to find clear straightforward information on Michelins website about their tires. There are many dealers who aren't as savvy as they should be either. I did my own research and cross referenced it all to make sure it would work because changing to 16" wheels is not a very good solution either on many of the trailers out there, not mention the needless additional cost.
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Old 06-11-2016, 05:01 PM   #58
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:09 AM   #59
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Yes but as Michelin will tell you...
Mounting an LT tire on a travel trailer is a misapplication and voids the warranty of the tire.
michelin sent me a letter stating their official policy and position. Many say something to the effect that Airstream offers these as standard... its Airstream's decision not the component manufacturers......
I'm not trying to start a war, just sharing factual information right from the source. This smart person tried them.and literally ripped the sidewall at the bead while backing his tripleaxle on 2 different sets. Ive had failures of the sidewall as well. This cost me.tens of thousands of dollars on repairs... a well maintained st tire has cost me zero on failure repair. I.fulltime and cover 20-50 thousand miles a year.
Were these tires old enough to be subject to the recall from a few years ago?
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:20 AM   #60
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I never personally checked for a recall. However on conversstion with Michelin there was no mention of any recall. As a matter of policy I always register the dot number with the tire company as to be notified in the event of a recall.
I have a big bubble on a less than a year old Michelin on my tow vehicle.... its a 265 75 16" E ltx ms2.... inflated hard at 80 psi never hit anything... just formed a big 4" bubble. Luckily Discount tire has their service certificate deal!
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Old 06-12-2016, 06:35 AM   #61
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Cool. So, what tires did he sell you and what model of trailer did you put them on?
Vanguard ST 225/75 R15. 1966 Tradewind.

Now, let the constructive criticism begin.

Actually, the back and forth about tires, tow vehicles, axles, paint choices, mosquito repellants, etc., is kind of fun to read. Maybe this is so because of my 40+ years as a lawyer, having seen a lot of emotion masked as reason, as well as reason melting into emotion, borne of frustration for failing to get a point across.

By the way, I'm thinking of getting a pet. What would be the better choice - a cat or a dog? Which would look better dyed blue?
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Troublemaker! Dog and I like your blue rims!
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:00 AM   #63
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RE Tongue weight. If you use "load equalizer" to shift weight back onto the TT, you can't claim the reduction in the TT GVWR when talking about tire load because the load isn't really on the ball.

The side force on the multi axle trailer tires is called "Interply Shear" Simply Google "Interply Shear tires" for more info. This can result in an extra 24% side force trying to tear the belts off the tire. Best thing you can do is to run the tire sidewall max pressure and to increase the tire load margin with larger tire or higher Load Range with higher inflation.

Careful with the LTX line some are LT type and some are passenger type.

"XL" at the end of the tire size is a tip off that the tire is really a "passenger type tire" which means it gets the 9% reduction is load capacity stated on the tire.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:21 AM   #64
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Wheels & tires !!!!!!!!! (:

To the Many wonderful people who have posted on this subject thanks to each of you. I do feel compelled to add my two cents worth. Safety is everything! Aircraft manufactures build planes strong enough to withstand three times the stresses they are EVER expected to encounter.
Thus we have millions flying safely every day. Its my position to error on the side of caution. I will soon be replacing my wheels and tires with a set that will far EXCEED minimum requirements. Its your life, enjoy it!
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:05 PM   #65
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Yup. When it comes to safety, there is no such thing as overdoing it...


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Yup. When it comes to safety, there is no such thing as overdoing it...

Actually there is.

Exceed the load capacity by too far with bigger tires and wheels and the trailer will suffer. Run the tire pressure up too far and there will be issues.

It isn't exceed this threshold and you are good. It is be in this window and you ar good. Outside the window in either direction and expect an adverse result.

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Is Michelin coming out with 15" e rated ST tire ??

I agree that exceeding specifications or running too much tire pressure is not good for the AS. But that's not exactly what in thinking when I say safety should be heavily on our minds.

For example, I can be 'safe' with some anti-sway hitch setup. I have been accused of overkill using a Hensley design on a 22 footer. For this example, I'm just fine with the overkill. It kept my blood pressure down when I'm towing. That's priceless..if that's overdoing, so be it.

I agree that there is a range of reasonable on anything. I tend to play toward the end of the range that leads to maximum safety--like a much better fire extinguisher, for example.


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Actually there is.

Exceed the load capacity by too far with bigger tires and wheels and the trailer will suffer. Run the tire pressure up too far and there will be issues.

It isn't exceed this threshold and you are good. It is be in this window and you ar good. Outside the window in either direction and expect an adverse result.

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Issues but not safety issues.
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WOW , 68 responce to my post and never really got an answer to my question!
Thanks for all the interesting reading
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WOW , 68 responce to my post and never really got an answer to my question!
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