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Old 02-10-2019, 10:36 AM   #43
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P235/75R x 15 Xl Michelins - changed out my Marathons to these. No comparison.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:46 AM   #44
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replace tires

I'm replacing my five year old Hercules tires with GY Endurance, this coming week in fact. And, I also will be putting the best of the Hercules on a spare wheel so that I'll have a second spare. A traveling buddy recently was glad he had a second.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:24 PM   #45
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I was told by the service manger at our AS dealer to not run the GY Marathons more than 3 years. I replaced them with GY Endurance tires after 2 years. Weve put 7500 miles on the new tires so far. One of the biggest differences Ive noticed is that I do not have to put air in them to maintain proper pressure as often as the Marathons. I had to add air to the Endurances once in the 7500 miles while on the Marathons I had to add air every week or two. I dont see the need to spend the extra money for 16 wheels and Michelin tires.


With STs I had to add air every couple of weeks while actually using the trailer. With LTs I only had to add air once a year, if at all.

In my mind, this is an important indicator of tire quality.
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I will never no more ever run ST tires on my AS. Their overall history is terrible. Good luck with the new GY Endurance, but when they fail and take out your holding tanks plus wheel well damage, you will wish that you changed to LT tires, specifically Michelin.
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Check your insurance policy. Most insurers will not pay for damage from a tire that is over five years old.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:15 PM   #48
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I too learned my lesson the hard way. GoodYear, properly inflated with about 3000 miles on it and only two years old, blew out on the interstate. The other one didn't blow, but the tread was clearly separating. Will never touch that manufacturer again.

I now run German made Michelin Rib commercial tires. Ask a professional truck driver. Tires are not something I want to go cheap on.
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:37 AM   #49
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On my second set of Maxxis E rated tires. Replaced at 3 1/2 years and about 20,000 miles. Cheap insurance to replace tires vs. body panels.
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I too learned my lesson the hard way. GoodYear, properly inflated with about 3000 miles on it and only two years old, blew out on the interstate. The other one didn't blow, but the tread was clearly separating. Will never touch that manufacturer again.

I now run German made Michelin Rib commercial tires. Ask a professional truck driver. Tires are not something I want to go cheap on.
Which model Goodyear blew--Marathons?? There are many many threads here on the GYM's having issues... The new GY Endurance are getting great reviews past 2 years... Your likely NOT running Michelin Rib commercial tires on any Airstream, anyway right??
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:14 PM   #51
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I will never no more ever run ST tires on my AS. Their overall history is terrible. Good luck with the new GY Endurance, but when they fail and take out your holding tanks plus wheel well damage, you will wish that you changed to LT tires, specifically Michelin.
Interesting experience...What is wrong with the ST rated tires vs the LT rated tires anyway, in your opinion? speed above 80mph??

...ST rated Endurance have been doing extremely well as noted here on the Forum and other blogs so far, and the Endurance ST is stock now on all new AS's with 15" wheels'. Michelin no longer offers a 15" LT rated tire. You can only get the Michelin LT rated if you have 16" wheels.... You may know this, but the LTX is not an LT rated tire in 15"; the sidewall can/does "give" and can cause sway sensation on your trailer if your using these LTX tires when properly inflated for the weight according to Michelins specs...this experience happened to me on my last 25' AS. The dealer warned me the Defender 15" LTX were no longer rated as LT. I pushed back on the tire dealer based on spec weight rating, not taking into account sidewall construction difference in an LT or ST vs standard Passenger rated tires, which the Michelin LTX 15" Defender is.

You will note that AS has switched the GY Endurance 15" as standard on most all new AS's, but they do include the Michelins on the 16" specialty models, like Globe Trotter and Classic... But, that's my experience...run what you feel you want to run...right now, I am happy with my switch to the Endurance...
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No question, I would replace them at that age--which is just as or more important than mileage on trailer tires. Also, it is far less expensive than the damage a blowout may cause. It's a good insurance policy if nothing else, and you'll sleep better.
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I will never no more ever run ST tires on my AS. Their overall history is terrible. Good luck with the new GY Endurance, but when they fail and take out your holding tanks plus wheel well damage, you will wish that you changed to LT tires, specifically Michelin.
Read http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...s2-165278.html

Bought 5 new Michelins at JC. Year 3 - one tread separation. Year 3.5 - 2 more tread separations. So 3 out of 4 running tires failed causing $10,000 damage to my AS. Even though the tires had a 7 year warranty, Michelin (who paid the first damage of $1,100 refused to pay the $8,000+ damage for the other failures (they happened one day apart). Michelin doesn't back their products - I will never use Michelins again (AS TT, Dodge truck & VW Passat).
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You are one example for a Michelin, but there are hundreds or thousands of examples of ST rated tires exploding. Yours is a very rare occurrence compared to the millions of LT Michelin tires on the road on both TV'S and Airstreams.
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pappy19 -> I had several ST tire failures and then went to Michelins. There are a number of lots that Michelin has recalled - they did have an issue with M+S2 tires, which is why they discontinued them and now market what appears to be the same as Defenders. Just know that Michelin will weasel out of their warranty obligations. I'm now running Coopers on my AS, and will change them at 3 years of age.
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You are one example for a Michelin, but there are hundreds or thousands of examples of ST rated tires exploding. Yours is a very rare occurrence compared to the millions of LT Michelin tires on the road on both TV'S and Airstreams.
"hundreds or thousands"; which is it? Which models are you referring to here? To dismiss "all" ST rated tires as being prone to exploding, is not accurate. The new Goodyear Endurance have a great speed rating, are made in USA, offer the reinforced sidewalls with the ST rating, and are less expensive. (also, many of us have had good experience with this model..)

Nothing wrong with Michelins for the right application...I run them on my truck and car...love them for the right application.
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