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04-07-2018, 05:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Swapped out GYM stock tires as soon as I got the three different Airstreams to their storage facility.
I carried in two at a time and CostCo installed the new 15” Michelin’s on the old rims. Trailer was NOT on their premises.
I ordered the 16” SenDel Wheels and Dill 1506-453 TOMS at a local Mesa Discount Tire. Took new wheels and TPMS toCostCo where they installed 16” Michelin tireson the new wheels. I swapped them on the trailer myself.
Discount tires ordered both 15” SenDel wheels and 15” Michelin tires with Dill TPMS and mountedthem. I took them with from Ohoenix to New Jersey and put them on the new 23D on the dealer lot.
Would not even consider a Good Year condom
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04-07-2018, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' International
Sioux Falls
, SD
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 576
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
Would not even consider a Good Year condom
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Yeah that
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2016 Int. Signature 28' w/ ProPride 3P-1400 Hitch
Mich. LTX w/ 16" Sendels, Centramatics
2017 Ram 2500 4x4 Diesel, CG1800 Bed slide, Leer topper
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04-08-2018, 06:42 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2019 25' International
1983 34' Excella
Hudson
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff1
I’m very happy with my Maxxis tires.
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Same here, bought 6 Maxxis tires for our '83 34 Excella and love them. I'm adding a TPMS for insurance!
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04-08-2018, 06:58 AM
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Johnnyooo
2015 23' International
Colrain
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 115
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Costco installed Michelin Defender LTX tires on new wheels I brought in...Airstream puts Michelin tires on some models, so they have to be more than capable of working for your Airstream...
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04-08-2018, 07:17 AM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Bought the GYEs right before the news broke about their cover up of the GYMs. Oh well, it’s too late to take them off to try and punish GY. Then I bought some Anderson levelers! He goes and defaces a national monument.
I hate to say this, but the last thing I bought was an iPhone 8. If you have apple stock, I’d unload it fast!
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2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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04-08-2018, 07:21 AM
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GettinAway
Bought the GYEs right before the news broke about their cover up of the GYMs. Oh well, it’s too late to take them off to try and punish GY. Then I bought some Anderson levelers! He goes and defaces a national monument.
I hate to say this, but the last thing I bought was an iPhone 8. If you have apple stock, I’d unload it fast!
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Especially in the current political climate...if I were the Chinese, I'd shutter Apple factories and see how fast the you know what hits the fan.
Cheers
Sidekick Tony
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04-08-2018, 07:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgentum
If not Goodyear Whatever or Michelin LTX, then Michelin XPS Ribs.
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I have seen positive posts re the M ribs. I finally went with the gye's & love them, but had very seriously considered the nokians, now made in Tn.
Use the search function as there numerous threads on the subject.
Bob
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04-08-2018, 07:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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I think I am going with the Michelin Defenders. I think you should use one of the 2 choices you listed with the 15" wheels.
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04-08-2018, 07:45 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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225/75/15. Never again
We ve been using 205/90R15 ST radials tires and 700-15 biased plymon our Airstream. Remember GYM have speed rating of up to 65, that’s for an hour or more
Not only 209/90/15 are taller than the 225’s for more ground clearance, Load Ranfe LR has speed rating of 75 mph. ( Not that we drive that fast). And the biggest item, on our ‘62 Overlander and ‘90 Squarestream these tires even at speed, don’t generate as much heat, as the 225 and 235 radials generate.
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‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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04-08-2018, 08:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,655
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Carlisle.
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04-08-2018, 08:32 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloradobus
225/75/15. Never again
We ve been using 205/90R15 ST radials tires and 700-15 biased plymon our Airstream. Remember GYM have speed rating of up to 65, that’s for an hour or more
Not only 209/90/15 are taller than the 225’s for more ground clearance, Load Ranfe LR has speed rating of 75 mph. ( Not that we drive that fast). And the biggest item, on our ‘62 Overlander and ‘90 Squarestream these tires even at speed, don’t generate as much heat, as the 225 and 235 radials generate.
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Heat generation is primarily the result of Speed & Load/Inflation. Other factors can include the use of the expensive compound, reduced thickness tread and similar construction features that are out of our control.
We drivers have complete control on the Speed/Load/Inflation factors.
Technically it would be better if all tires had at least a 15% margin on load. We need to remember that road slant & crown and curves along with significant side load from wind can easily result in overloading tires that were measured on a level scale. Multi-axle trailers should shoot for a 25% load margin.
Speed rating. We should think of this like the engine red-line. Everyone seems to understand that running faster than red line will shorten engine life but that doesn't mean that 5,900 on a 6,000 redline is good to run for hours on end.
The high-speed test is a 30-minute step speed test of a brand new tire on a smooth test wheel. No potholes or curb damage. All that is needed to "pass" the test is to meet the target speed and not come apart. The tire is scrap after the test.
LT tires would be my first choice in any application where heavy loading was required. Why do so many think that there is some magic engineering available to go into ST tires that allow them to suppost10% to 20% more load than an LT? The Load formulas used today are the same ones used in 1969 when the ST tires were limited to 65 MAX (red-line).
I would be very interested to hear an answer from the engineers at the companies that make ST type tires why they were able to suddenly increase the speed rating from 65 to 75, 87 or even 99 on their ST type tires If they have some new materials why don't they put those same materials in LT tires and increase the load capacity of LT tires to be the same as or closer to the loads seen claimed for ST type tires.
Sorry I just don't buy the new claimed high speed capabilities of ST type tires.
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04-09-2018, 08:37 AM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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GYE tires brought to us by the same company that hid defective RV tire reports and details that resulted in some folks dying. Putting lipstick on a .... is still a ....
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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04-09-2018, 12:56 PM
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#33
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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Twenty one tires in nine years. One blow out and all the rest tread seperation. GYM, Carlisle, and Maxxis. Airstream recommended Michelin LTs. And, Discount sold me the warrantees knowing they were sold by Airstream. No more tire failures. Large trailer owners beware, ST tires are not durable enough for your loads.
guskmg
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