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04-16-2015, 10:05 AM
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#101
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
1. Many many people that went up a load range on ST tires had them fail for no reason.....
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Over my carreer I estimate I was involved in 20,000+ tire "autopsies" and for the last 10 years or so of my job my primary duty was failed tire inspection where I was the last person to get involved when others could not identify the Root Cause reason for a failure.
I had to issue written reports that were sent to engineers at GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota, BMW, Porsche etc so simply providing "customer satisfaction" and giving them a replacement tire was not an option. They wanted proof.
My inspections involved not just visual inspection but sometimes X-Ray, Holography, drum testing, chemistry and even Electron Microscope were tools involved.
I believe that in over 98% of the cases we were able to present physical evidence that supported the theory of why a given failure occurred so to me, "no reason" simply means that the person doing the inspection did not have the training or tools available to learn the real reason for a specific failure.
I am providing this information in an effort to demonstrate that failed tire analysis is not a simple task but takes decades of experience and access to numerous tools so a fact based conclusion can be reached.
I do not believe in Magic but in Science and physical evidence. The overwelming reason for tire failure is loss of proper inflation pressure with punctures, cuts, valve leaks and other forms of damage being the reason for the air loss.
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04-17-2015, 04:24 PM
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#102
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Stoughton
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 126
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I pulled the trigger on the Michelin 15" LTX today. I can't wait to test them out on the hwy.
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04-17-2015, 04:30 PM
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#103
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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I'm sure you'll love them.
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Lance
Work is never done, so take time to play!
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04-17-2015, 10:42 PM
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#104
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
z
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 262
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Indeed
That lil guy waving @ you on the side of the tire says it all. I gotta go shop on e-bay for a figurine of that guy. With as much $ as I have spent on them, and for as long as I have owned, and been buying them, they should be sending ME one!
Good looking tires mustang. You will truly be a happy camper. Congrats!
Sea ya down the road,
Gavin
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04-30-2015, 12:27 PM
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#105
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,576
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Want to see a set of tires do strange things? buy a set of tow masters
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05-06-2015, 05:06 PM
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#106
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1965 mustang
I pulled the trigger on the Michelin 15" LTX today. I can't wait to test them out on the hwy. Attachment 236508
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Don't forget that if these are "P" type you need to de-rate the load capacity by dividing by 1.1 as P type tires are not intended for trailer application.
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05-06-2015, 05:33 PM
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#107
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1965 mustang
I pulled the trigger on the Michelin 15" LTX today. I can't wait to test them out on the hwy. Attachment 236508
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Congrats - but remember, these only work with the white letters facing out 😜
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05-07-2015, 05:06 PM
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#108
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Stoughton
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Congrats - but remember, these only work with the white letters facing out 😜
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I'll turn the rims around, then they will be out!😏
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05-07-2015, 05:12 PM
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#109
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Stoughton
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9
Don't forget that if these are "P" type you need to de-rate the load capacity by dividing by 1.1 as P type tires are not intended for trailer application.
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All the math has been done. We have over 2,000 miles on this trip with no problems. We did see a 5er on the side of the road in SC with a shredded tire though.
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05-07-2015, 10:33 PM
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#110
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2 Rivet Member
1995 33' Land Yacht
Tempe
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 35
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tires
Michelin tires are expensive but they are the best. I have used numerous brands. They have all worn out quickly. So Michelin. Oh, that is a $5,000 body repair. I have not had the body work done yet on mine 1995 because they told me $5000.00 and it is not as bad as your damage.
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05-08-2015, 03:42 AM
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#111
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1965 mustang
I'll turn the rims around, then they will be out!😏
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Now that's the way to do it! 😃
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05-09-2015, 12:11 AM
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#112
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Rivet Master
1992 29' Excella
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 747
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FYI.
My AS body damage is fixed thanks to the fine workmanship at Out-Of-Doors Mart RV in NC. It's back home now and in the driveway awaiting my new tires and rims.
I've decided to switch to the Michelin Truck LTX M/S2 225/R75/16". Ordered the tires from Tirebuyer.com and Sendel T03 SM rims from Recstuff.com. Paid decent prices for both tires and rims and Michelin has a $70 rebate until May 10th.
The tires have already arrived. If all goes as planned the rims will be here Tuesday and I'll be getting them mounted and installed the middle to end of next week.
I want to especially thank Phoenix for all of his help and advice.
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Virginia Beach, VA
1992 29' Excella Classic
TV 2006 Dodge Ram 2500
Mega Cab Diesel 4x4
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05-17-2015, 07:46 PM
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#113
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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abAs long as you're upgrading the rims & tires, consider adding Centramatics. They will dynamically balance your tire/rim/brakes/hub assembly. Absent proper balance, vibration can do all sorts of nasty stuff, such as loosen rivets, open drawers & cupboards.
Last summer I went whole hog - replaced and upgraded my axles, plus Sendel 16" rims and Michelin LTX225/75R16(E) tires (including the spare) & Centramatics. Have put on about 15,000 miles since - rides smoothly and tows like a dream.
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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05-17-2015, 09:35 PM
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#114
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Rivet Master
1992 29' Excella
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 747
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blkmagikca
abAs long as you're upgrading the rims & tires, consider adding Centramatics.
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I agree. Lucky for me, they were already on my AS when I bought it from the PO.
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Virginia Beach, VA
1992 29' Excella Classic
TV 2006 Dodge Ram 2500
Mega Cab Diesel 4x4
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05-18-2015, 07:10 AM
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#115
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2 Rivet Member
1989 25' Excella
Albemarle
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 33
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Proper tire inflation for MAXXIS ST 225/75R15 Load Range E M8008 For Trailer use only on 25 Ft 1989 Excella Rear Twin (side bath.) Empty Black and water tanks Two propane tanks removed
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05-18-2015, 04:14 PM
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#116
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Rivet Master
1992 29' Excella
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 747
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I meant to post these earlier. Here are a couple of pictures of the repair and the new rims and tires. I hadn't put my Tire Pressure Monitoring sensors back on the tires yet, in these pictures.
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Virginia Beach, VA
1992 29' Excella Classic
TV 2006 Dodge Ram 2500
Mega Cab Diesel 4x4
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05-19-2015, 11:35 AM
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#117
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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Wow! Those look great on there. I am glad Out Of Doors mart was able to get everything repaired for you. We are on the fence about replacing our new 15" trailer tires with upgraded 16" gear. Every time I see these pictures of new wheels and tires I get the urge to upgrade.
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05-23-2015, 08:21 AM
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#118
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon73
Wow! Those look great on there. I am glad Out Of Doors mart was able to get everything repaired for you. We are on the fence about replacing our new 15" trailer tires with upgraded 16" gear. Every time I see these pictures of new wheels and tires I get the urge to upgrade.
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Go for it! I did and the peace of mind knowing that you won't have ST-tire failure (with its associated costs) is worth every penny. Better towing, longer tire life and a lot safer with 16" LT-tires.
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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