Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-16-2016, 02:53 PM   #29
3 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 230
In my opinion you will find my fellow forum friends are real "worry worts". If I were you I would go to the Good Year web site and read what they say. I you do not have deep cracks on the side way and the tire face "the part that touches the road" is flat and wearing even, you are in good shap. Enjoy the wine you buy with the savings and relax.

larryglarson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 04:04 PM   #30
1 Rivet Member
1959 28' Ambassador
Albany , Minnesota
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Hello,Definitely replace the tires, cheap price for big reward.
When you are traveling thru MN you should stop by. We live in central MN on a 80 acre farm and have a collection of trailers and vintage vehicles which we restore in our spare time. We have a 1959 28' Airstream, all original, even upholstery & curtains, a 1962 Avion T-20 restored and a 1964 T-21 Avion which we are working on at present. You could stay with full hook ups...just extending our hospitality. Let me know if you're interested, PM me.
Happy trails,

tweetie2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 04:09 PM   #31
4 Rivet Member
1966 24' Tradewind
2005 22' Safari
Bastrop , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 329
Ancient Chinese saying = " examine tire closely , if it stamped S T , immediately replace with Michelins "

we run 235/75R15 P rated 50 PSI , Michelins on our AS and they preform flawlessly !
dannydimitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 04:14 PM   #32
4 Rivet Member
SeaLevel's Avatar
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 341
Originally Posted by dannydimitt View Post
Ancient Chinese saying =
I thought the consensus was to avoid all things Chinese when it came to tires.
SeaLevel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 04:36 PM   #33
Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer , Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 702
Originally Posted by larryglarson View Post
In my opinion you will find my fellow forum friends are real "worry worts".
Its funny because I was told I was a "worry wort" about the BF Goodrich tires I had on my Excursion just 2 weeks before we blew one to pieces on I94 in WI. They looked perfect, my mechanic and Town Fair Tire said they should be fine.

Well let me tell you, I never realized how violent a blow out could be. My son was desperately trying to maintain control, I had to unbuckle my seatbelt to get to the brake controller because the belt had me pined to the seat. The police had to come a close 1 lane because there was no shoulder as the section we were at was under construction.

The truck came from Florida so the consensus was they had UV damage but here was no cracking. The tire was 4 years old I was told at the new tire shop.

I looked online about GYM's and I am shocked how bad of reputation they have. I don't care if they are 1 year old, they are up for sale if you want them, along with the 15" rims.

Keep in mind I drive with a family of 6, with the youngest being 4 yo. I might feel different if it were just me.
Ted S. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 04:46 PM   #34
Rivet Master
Mrjkq's Avatar

2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice , Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 867
After reading all this I'm still leaning toward Maxxis E rated ST tires.
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
2016 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
Mrjkq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 05:01 PM   #35
Rivet Master
Silverflames's Avatar

1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,195
I called Maxiss today to discuss the D vs E, thinking like I always do to over engineer the project so it holds up better. The tech guy told me that the E tire is essentially a D rated tire at 65 PSI but with extra material to heat up. You get the extra load rating from the increased tire pressure. So to get the 3800 rating the tire has to be filled to 85 PSI. He did not feel the E would hold up any better at 65 PSI than the D, and theoretically worse do to the extra material holding the additional heat.

The D appears to be rated at 2500 lbs at 65 PSI, so with four tires that's 10,000 lbs. Also I think they are down graded a bit for dual axel use.

So either way, way over my trailer weight of 5500ish lbs.

They also come with a 5 year warranty. Not covering road hazards of course.

He informed me that Maxxas makes their tires in Taiwan, but they are engineered state side.

So I'll be ordering the D rated tires tomorrow. $575 out the door.
Not all those who wonder are lost.
Silverflames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 05:28 PM   #36
4 Rivet Member
2013 30' International
Anna Maria , Florida
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 365
Originally Posted by Mrjkq View Post
Hi, you post is timely as there are a few threads running about tire failure, especially Goodyear Marathon Tires (GMT).
In short you definitely need to replace those tires. From what I've been reading the GMT trouble begins around 8 to 10K mile mark. My AS is brand new & I'm replacing those tires with either Maxxis E rated ST tires or Michelin Defender 225/75R15 109t
tires coming out next mo,nth, I haven't decided which yet as I'm waiting for a few reports on the Michelins. If you replace stay away from GMT & Carlisle tires. If you were to decide on Michelin you need new rims also as your are 14" vs 15". Many forum members have gone that route on the 23' AS. Maxxis tires are the very best trailer tire on the market whereas Michelin are LTX meaning passenger (car, light truck) tires but are being used more & more on AS trailers.
I Second that advise.
2013 International about 13,000 miles on GYM tires. Massive blowout and tread separation on one tire and 2 others were ready to separate as well .
This happened at 65 MPH on I- 4 heading to Disney in the middle lane.
I just glanced on my tire monitoring system and all was well. As I looked away Boom & Ratatatat. $ 9,200.00 damage to the Trailer plus the hassle associated with this. Trip to JC drop the trailer of, trip to retrieve, etc,etc.
Insurance picked up the cost accept for the tires. We found out that the tires that came with the trailer from AS were already 2 years old when we bought it new in 2013.
franklyfrank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 11:06 PM   #37
2006 34' Classic
Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 261
After 21 tires in 9 years, of which one tread separation blew out and the other 20 just had tread separation, I now own Michelins. The ST tires were Goodyear, Carlisle, and Maxxis. The blow out cost $1,200 at Airstream Service to repair. About the cost of the set of Michelins, 'nuf said.
guskmg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 11:14 PM   #38
Rivet Master

2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,239
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Hi, I replaced two Marathons at about 3 years old due to a small bubble in the sidewall of each tire. I replaced the other two Marathons due to separation at 7 years old and at 10 years I replaced the never used Marathon spare tire. These were the original tires that came on my trailer since new.

These were "Canadian" made Marathons.

The replacements were Chinese Marathons which never had any problems. At 10 years, I replaced all of my tires with Carlisle ST's rated for 82 MPH.

2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent"
[ Small Silver Castle ]
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:16 AM   #39
Rivet Master
Ravenna , Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 575
Simply looking at the tires on the trailer is not a good way to do a thorough inspection. I have a couple posts on my tire blog on "Inspection" that cover the process in detail. Including a most important "free spin" examination with video example of a tire with no sidewall cracks and good tread but my examination showed it had already failed, just not come apart yet.

Sidewall cracks are more of an indicator of possible structural weakness or other problem that may be present.

Much like taking your temperature. If you have a high temp reading it is an indication that there is probably something wrong with you that needs more detailed examination to learn the real cause. Same with sidewall cracks.

BUT not having a temperature doesn't mean there is nothing medically wrong with you. Same with sidewall cracks.
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:23 AM   #40
Rivet Master
Ravenna , Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 575
Originally Posted by Ted S. View Post
It's shocking to research tires and find so many blowouts from owners of all brands.

Its almost as if the tire industry knows most FRV's just sit in one place.

The least amount of issues on trailer tires were Maxxis from what I read.

What the tire industry knows is that a majority (based on thousands of actual load measurements) of RV owners, as a group have one or more tire in overload and operate at speeds that exceed the max speed rating of their tires. RV community on the whole does a poor job if maintaining their tire pressure and RV trailer manufacturers in general provide a very low safety margin for load capacity.

Not sure if MAXXIS is OE on any RV trailers. It is possible that people that research their tire purchase and don't just buy the lowest cost tire are likely to take better care of their tires.
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:33 AM   #41
Rivet Master
Ravenna , Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 575
I suggest people read the thread on Overage Maxxis tires so they are informed buyers.
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 11:48 AM   #42
Moderator dude
Action's Avatar

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,788
Images: 13
Originally Posted by Tireman9 View Post

and RV trailer manufacturers in general provide a very low safety margin for load capacity.

I have a personal experience with a brand new large non-travel trailer. The load was about 7000 #s and the brand new trailer was being delivered to me from Northern CA. The delivery guy had a blow out before I got the trailer and I had a blow out with in a year of delivery. Not really checking out the tires I examined the failed tire and discovered the combined load capacity of the tires was just a 100 pounds greater than the static trailer load with tires inflated to max side wall pressure. Once hitched the TV took some load however it still didn't give me a reserve load capacity for the tires.

I am sure that is an exception rather than the rule however it was a bit scary to me to know that if the tires were not totally inflated I was under capacity. And I discovered many RVs are equipped with the least expensive and smallest load capacity margin tires possible. May be not as extreme as my case. As it is all about moving the product at the least cost possible. I did get rid of those tires shortly after that.


1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
Action is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I know I should know this blucloud Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 10 09-13-2015 07:47 AM
Tires...Tires...Tires Bob Thompson Tires 277 07-30-2015 01:30 PM
I know one of you will know how to... AIR-Quarius Cleaning, Stripping & Polishing 1 05-31-2014 10:45 PM
Know anywhere to buy a fridge for a '64 Globetrotter? Peanut76 Refrigerators 0 06-02-2009 12:43 PM
Help tires, tires, tires. jimmini Tires 9 10-18-2008 07:54 PM

Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2015 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.