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Old 02-16-2016, 03:53 PM   #29
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In my opinion you will find my fellow forum friends are real "worry worts". If I were you I would go to the Good Year web site and read what they say. I you do not have deep cracks on the side way and the tire face "the part that touches the road" is flat and wearing even, you are in good shap. Enjoy the wine you buy with the savings and relax.
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:04 PM   #30
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Hello,Definitely replace the tires, cheap price for big reward.
When you are traveling thru MN you should stop by. We live in central MN on a 80 acre farm and have a collection of trailers and vintage vehicles which we restore in our spare time. We have a 1959 28' Airstream, all original, even upholstery & curtains, a 1962 Avion T-20 restored and a 1964 T-21 Avion which we are working on at present. You could stay with full hook ups...just extending our hospitality. Let me know if you're interested, PM me.
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:09 PM   #31
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Ancient Chinese saying = " examine tire closely , if it stamped S T , immediately replace with Michelins "

we run 235/75R15 P rated 50 PSI , Michelins on our AS and they preform flawlessly !
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:14 PM   #32
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I thought the consensus was to avoid all things Chinese when it came to tires.
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:36 PM   #33
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In my opinion you will find my fellow forum friends are real "worry worts".
Its funny because I was told I was a "worry wort" about the BF Goodrich tires I had on my Excursion just 2 weeks before we blew one to pieces on I94 in WI. They looked perfect, my mechanic and Town Fair Tire said they should be fine.

Well let me tell you, I never realized how violent a blow out could be. My son was desperately trying to maintain control, I had to unbuckle my seatbelt to get to the brake controller because the belt had me pined to the seat. The police had to come a close 1 lane because there was no shoulder as the section we were at was under construction.

The truck came from Florida so the consensus was they had UV damage but here was no cracking. The tire was 4 years old I was told at the new tire shop.

I looked online about GYM's and I am shocked how bad of reputation they have. I don't care if they are 1 year old, they are up for sale if you want them, along with the 15" rims.

Keep in mind I drive with a family of 6, with the youngest being 4 yo. I might feel different if it were just me.
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:46 PM   #34
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After reading all this I'm still leaning toward Maxxis E rated ST tires.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:01 PM   #35
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I called Maxiss today to discuss the D vs E, thinking like I always do to over engineer the project so it holds up better. The tech guy told me that the E tire is essentially a D rated tire at 65 PSI but with extra material to heat up. You get the extra load rating from the increased tire pressure. So to get the 3800 rating the tire has to be filled to 85 PSI. He did not feel the E would hold up any better at 65 PSI than the D, and theoretically worse do to the extra material holding the additional heat.

The D appears to be rated at 2500 lbs at 65 PSI, so with four tires that's 10,000 lbs. Also I think they are down graded a bit for dual axel use.

So either way, way over my trailer weight of 5500ish lbs.

They also come with a 5 year warranty. Not covering road hazards of course.

He informed me that Maxxas makes their tires in Taiwan, but they are engineered state side.

So I'll be ordering the D rated tires tomorrow. $575 out the door.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:28 PM   #36
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Hi, you post is timely as there are a few threads running about tire failure, especially Goodyear Marathon Tires (GMT).
In short you definitely need to replace those tires. From what I've been reading the GMT trouble begins around 8 to 10K mile mark. My AS is brand new & I'm replacing those tires with either Maxxis E rated ST tires or Michelin Defender 225/75R15 109t
tires coming out next mo,nth, I haven't decided which yet as I'm waiting for a few reports on the Michelins. If you replace stay away from GMT & Carlisle tires. If you were to decide on Michelin you need new rims also as your are 14" vs 15". Many forum members have gone that route on the 23' AS. Maxxis tires are the very best trailer tire on the market whereas Michelin are LTX meaning passenger (car, light truck) tires but are being used more & more on AS trailers.
I Second that advise.
2013 International about 13,000 miles on GYM tires. Massive blowout and tread separation on one tire and 2 others were ready to separate as well .
This happened at 65 MPH on I- 4 heading to Disney in the middle lane.
I just glanced on my tire monitoring system and all was well. As I looked away Boom & Ratatatat. $ 9,200.00 damage to the Trailer plus the hassle associated with this. Trip to JC drop the trailer of, trip to retrieve, etc,etc.
Insurance picked up the cost accept for the tires. We found out that the tires that came with the trailer from AS were already 2 years old when we bought it new in 2013.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:06 AM   #37
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After 21 tires in 9 years, of which one tread separation blew out and the other 20 just had tread separation, I now own Michelins. The ST tires were Goodyear, Carlisle, and Maxxis. The blow out cost $1,200 at Airstream Service to repair. About the cost of the set of Michelins, 'nuf said.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:14 AM   #38
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Hi, I replaced two Marathons at about 3 years old due to a small bubble in the sidewall of each tire. I replaced the other two Marathons due to separation at 7 years old and at 10 years I replaced the never used Marathon spare tire. These were the original tires that came on my trailer since new.

These were "Canadian" made Marathons.


The replacements were Chinese Marathons which never had any problems. At 10 years, I replaced all of my tires with Carlisle ST's rated for 82 MPH.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:16 AM   #39
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Simply looking at the tires on the trailer is not a good way to do a thorough inspection. I have a couple posts on my tire blog on "Inspection" that cover the process in detail. Including a most important "free spin" examination with video example of a tire with no sidewall cracks and good tread but my examination showed it had already failed, just not come apart yet.

Sidewall cracks are more of an indicator of possible structural weakness or other problem that may be present.

Much like taking your temperature. If you have a high temp reading it is an indication that there is probably something wrong with you that needs more detailed examination to learn the real cause. Same with sidewall cracks.

BUT not having a temperature doesn't mean there is nothing medically wrong with you. Same with sidewall cracks.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:23 AM   #40
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It's shocking to research tires and find so many blowouts from owners of all brands.

Its almost as if the tire industry knows most FRV's just sit in one place.

The least amount of issues on trailer tires were Maxxis from what I read.

What the tire industry knows is that a majority (based on thousands of actual load measurements) of RV owners, as a group have one or more tire in overload and operate at speeds that exceed the max speed rating of their tires. RV community on the whole does a poor job if maintaining their tire pressure and RV trailer manufacturers in general provide a very low safety margin for load capacity.

Not sure if MAXXIS is OE on any RV trailers. It is possible that people that research their tire purchase and don't just buy the lowest cost tire are likely to take better care of their tires.
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I suggest people read the thread on Overage Maxxis tires so they are informed buyers.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:48 PM   #42
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and RV trailer manufacturers in general provide a very low safety margin for load capacity.

I have a personal experience with a brand new large non-travel trailer. The load was about 7000 #s and the brand new trailer was being delivered to me from Northern CA. The delivery guy had a blow out before I got the trailer and I had a blow out with in a year of delivery. Not really checking out the tires I examined the failed tire and discovered the combined load capacity of the tires was just a 100 pounds greater than the static trailer load with tires inflated to max side wall pressure. Once hitched the TV took some load however it still didn't give me a reserve load capacity for the tires.

I am sure that is an exception rather than the rule however it was a bit scary to me to know that if the tires were not totally inflated I was under capacity. And I discovered many RVs are equipped with the least expensive and smallest load capacity margin tires possible. May be not as extreme as my case. As it is all about moving the product at the least cost possible. I did get rid of those tires shortly after that.

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