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12-10-2013, 11:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2010 31' Classic
Crestview
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HELP! with tires, switching to 16" rims.
Just contacted Discounttiredirect.com to purchase the Michelin winter tire 225/75R16E LTX.
I was told it's the absolute wrong tire for a trailer and can only be used in 40 or below degree weather. Well, my trailer is in Florida 1/2 the year. He also said these tires will not last more than 6 months because the rubber they are made of is softer.
Some people recommend the Michelin LTX M/S2. Somebody here, Please unconfuse me.
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12-10-2013, 11:51 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Flying Cloud
South Hero
, Vermont
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Are those Michelins car tires? I have never heard of putting winter car tires on a trailer. On a TV, yes. IMHO, trailers take trailer tires.
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12-10-2013, 11:52 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
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M/S2 and "winter tire" are not the same thing. M/S2 is a "mud+snow" all-season tire, *NOT* a winter tire. Winter (snow) tires have softer compounds that lets them stay more flexible in cold temperatures. I'm surprised they didn't recommend the regular all-season LTX 16", but maybe they're unaware that LT tires are rated for trailers. (and the 16" LTX is a true LT, it doesn't have the gray area people argue about with the 15" LTX Michelins that don't have enough load-carrying capacity for your big Classic.)
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12-10-2013, 12:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Why would you want winter tires on your trailer?
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12-10-2013, 12:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
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Quote:
IMHO, trailers take trailer tires.
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Oh boy, do some reading on here about that
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12-10-2013, 01:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Winter tires? Is there some creative thinking here?
Just get the LTX M/S2 that Airstream offers as an option and most of us use.
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12-10-2013, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
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The desired tire is a:
Michelin LT 225/75R16E LTX M/S2 Michelin part number 05681
You can see them at tire dealers and the entrance hallway at the Airstream factory being offered for sale along side the 16" SenDel T03-6655T wheels.
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12-10-2013, 04:03 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
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In my experience Michelin tires are very prone to weather cracking and leaking after a few years. There must be longer lived tires out there.
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12-10-2013, 04:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
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This is strange thread! Especially since I just bought and installed the 16" wheels and the recommended Michelin tires!
Hoping to have a good experience with them based in what others seem to be having so far!
As for longevity / tire cracking, I am still planning to change them in 4 or 5 years weather worn or not - seems that is what is suggested - I wouldn't expect signs of sidewall cracking within that time span. We'll see!
Brian.
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12-10-2013, 04:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
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Originally Posted by switz
The desired tire is a:
Michelin LT 225/75R16E LTX M/S2 Michelin part number 05681
You can see them at tire dealers and the entrance hallway at the Airstream factory being offered for sale along side the 16" SenDel T03-6655T wheels.
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12-10-2013, 04:32 PM
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2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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As a possible alternative, also from Discount Tire, I've been using B F Goodrich Commercial TA LT225/75R16E with good results for about two years now. Discount told me B F Goodrich is now made by Michelin, and they are a few bucks less expensive.
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12-10-2013, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
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michelin LTX M/S 2 is the correct tire as others have stated.
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12-10-2013, 07:27 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingeezer
This is strange thread! Especially since I just bought and installed the 16" wheels and the recommended Michelin tires!
Hoping to have a good experience with them based in what others seem to be having so far!
As for longevity / tire cracking, I am still planning to change them in 4 or 5 years weather worn or not - seems that is what is suggested - I wouldn't expect signs of sidewall cracking within that time span. We'll see!
Brian.
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You can expect anything you want but I can virtually guarantee that within 5 years your tires will show sidewall cracking and at least one will be losing air.
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12-10-2013, 07:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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There will most likely be sidewall cracking in 5 years. I promise you there will definitely be sidewall cracking in 6-7 years. I never get the tread life from a tire. I end up replacing them because the sidewalks are cracked. That being said I would love to find a good tire that will handle the load that is less expensive than the Michelins, but better than Carlisle trailer tires or Goodyear Marathons.
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12-10-2013, 09:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic
Town
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I also want to switch to 16in wheels and tires, but why does it has to be Michelins. Wouldn't most any LT 225/75r 16 Load E work? I sure like the price and reviews on the Hankook truck tire.
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12-11-2013, 05:25 AM
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CapriRacer
I'm in the
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Libo
Just contacted Discounttiredirect.com to purchase the Michelin winter tire 225/75R16E LTX.
I was told it's the absolute wrong tire for a trailer and can only be used in 40 or below degree weather. Well, my trailer is in Florida 1/2 the year. He also said these tires will not last more than 6 months because the rubber they are made of is softer.
Some people recommend the Michelin LTX M/S2. Somebody here, Please unconfuse me.
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The confusion is in the name. There is no Michelin LTX. There's a Michelin LTX A/S, a Michelin LTX AT/2, a Michelin LTX Winter, a Michelin LTX MS, and a Michelin LTX MS/2.
The only winter tire that is also an LTX is the Michelin LTX Winter. I'm guessing Discount Tire is referring to that. The question is why are you specifying a winter tire? An LTX Winter is not suitable for a trailer - and certainly not an appropriate tire for Florida.
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12-11-2013, 07:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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What is the purpose of switching to 16" wheels? Can't we buy 15" LT tires?
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2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
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12-11-2013, 07:04 AM
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2005 30' Classic
Burlington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
What is the purpose of switching to 16" wheels? Can't we buy 15" LT tires?
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I believe it depends on the load rating you need for your particular trailer GVW.
There was not a 15" LT tire that had enough capacity to use on our Classic 30 with GVW=10,000#. So I went with the 16" wheels to get the capacity I needed.
Mind you, I only looked at the Michelins, perhaps someone else makes one?
Brian.
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12-11-2013, 07:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
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I changed my Michelin 15" tires at 5 years because of sidewall cracking. Will check and probably change the current set at 4 years. I saw no appreciable wear of the tread at 5 years and 40.000 miles on the last set. Just the cracking. Maybe keeping the tires covered from the sun more would help. The spare was not cracked at all. And none of the tires were loosing air.
"What is the purpose of switching to 16" wheels? Can't we buy 15" LT tires."
For the most part, no we can not. I think maybe Komo still sells one? Michelin calls the 15" tire the LT, but it is rated as a P tire with 50 psi inflation limit. On the very heavy Airstreams the 15" XL tires may be right at top load limit. So some people go to 16" for that. Some go to 16" wheels for smaller trailers because they want to be able to buy either LT tires or trailer rated tires.
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