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10-22-2012, 07:03 AM
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#81
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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+1 I run the same tires and love them.
Perry
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperTrouper
Here's what we put on our 27 FB a year ago with good results so far:
BF Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A Tour
P235/75R15/XL 108T
Tire Size: Side Wall: Service Description: Mileage Warranty: UTQG:
P235/75R15/XL OWL 108T 60,000 580AB
XL means extra load.
Brad
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10-22-2012, 07:52 PM
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#82
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
2013 Interstate Coach
Opelika
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 114
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15" GYM sidewall blowout
Well add me to the GYM sidewall blowout club. Wife and I were returning from camping at Stone Mountain GA and the Highland Games and had just crossed the Alabama state line on I 85 with our OB Bambi (single axle) and I noticed the truck having to drop a gear up a slight grade. This was unusual and I looked out my outside mirror and saw shreds of rubber coming from the wheel well. I noticed no steering problems and pulled off the side of the road right after the Welcome Station...couldn't make it safely. The driver's side wheel sidewall was non-existent...the tread wrapped around the wheel. Damage to the underbody was slight but will still have to be repaired. The wheel did it's job but is not useable now. Think I'll go to Michelin's next...their quality control is excellent. I had it at an Airstream dealer in NC recently and he asked me if I had any problems with the GYM? I said no...they had performed well.
Thanks to my Guardian Angel and one that showed up to help me, we got back on the road and made it home without incident.
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Mike Hamilton
WBCCI # 2766
2013 Airstream Interstate (Darth Vader)
1965 17' Caravel (R2D2)
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10-23-2012, 03:32 PM
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#83
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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Well, y'all have convinced me. I'm gonna get Michelins.
All I have to do now is rob a bank to pay for 'em!
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"Between what matters and what seems to matter, how should the world we know judge wisely?" - E.C. Bentley, Trent's Last Case
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10-23-2012, 04:33 PM
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#84
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drboyd
Well, y'all have convinced me. I'm gonna get Michelins.
All I have to do now is rob a bank to pay for 'em!
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Naw... first born will do.
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Jaxon
WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
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10-23-2012, 09:27 PM
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#85
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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They wouldn't want my first born - he's big and mean!
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01-18-2013, 03:46 PM
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#86
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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01-18-2013, 04:18 PM
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#87
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Damn the GYM's....full speed ahead!!
I had a nail in my GYM...duz that count?, I actually had to install the spare 'cuz my emergency plug kit dried up....my bad
POI...second set on the Classic.
Bob
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01-21-2013, 03:59 PM
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#88
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1 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Kirkland
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 17
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GYM Tire Question
Attached is a picture of a GYM on my 25FB. There is an indentation in the sidewall (or bulges on either side?) that I was curious if anyone has any idea what it may be (or if it's a problem). Sorry about the lousy picture, it's the best I could get with my cell phone but it is the light are above the "A".
Bought the trailer used (16 months old based on original delivery date) but the tires do look like they have some miles on them. Any ideas what this may be and if so, is it a problem?
Thanks,
Ron
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01-21-2013, 04:10 PM
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#89
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
2013 Interstate Coach
Opelika
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 114
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I had the same "indentation" on my GYM's ... one did blow out but I don't know if that indentation was the cause/indicator.
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Mike Hamilton
WBCCI # 2766
2013 Airstream Interstate (Darth Vader)
1965 17' Caravel (R2D2)
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01-21-2013, 04:23 PM
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#90
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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If you were to count up the number of words on the Forum on GYM's I suspect you'd find more concern, comments, disagreement, and consternation on this single topic than any other. Because of it, I pulled off the brand new 15" wheels and GYM's off my brand new 2012 28' Intl and replaced them with 16" wheels and Michelin LT's -- like a lot of other people who had a lot more experience than me. I have put around 4,000 miles on these tires. While I might have been fine with the stock wheels/tires, the peace of mind in going with a larger wheel and a robust tire is beyond the financial investment. Oh, and I met I guy on one of my trips who had TWO (yes TWO) GYM failures in two days. The first one was catastrophic enough to rip out his wheel well and part of the adjoining aluminum panel.
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"SilverLeaf II" 2015 30' Classic
2019 RAM 2500 Limited 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
WBCCI # 3430-Unit 21
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01-21-2013, 06:03 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResoRon
Attached is a picture of a GYM on my 25FB. There is an indentation in the sidewall (or bulges on either side?) that I was curious if anyone has any idea what it may be (or if it's a problem). Sorry about the lousy picture, it's the best I could get with my cell phone but it is the light are above the "A".
Bought the trailer used (16 months old based on original delivery date) but the tires do look like they have some miles on them. Any ideas what this may be and if so, is it a problem?
Thanks,
Ron
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I asked this same question when we first brought out Airstream home. It turns out that these indentations are a normal result of how the radial belts are laid. There is a thread about it somewhere around here.
Ken
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01-21-2013, 07:44 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Innies, 'kinda normal for radials.....outies, not so much.
GYM's on both our trailers since 1989, no failures, one flat..nail.
Bob
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01-22-2013, 07:54 AM
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#93
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
2013 Interstate Coach
Opelika
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 114
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I replaced my GYM's with Carlisles and the Carlisles don't have this "pattern". Never seen this on my Michelin's, Continentals, or BF Goodrich tires.
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Mike Hamilton
WBCCI # 2766
2013 Airstream Interstate (Darth Vader)
1965 17' Caravel (R2D2)
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01-22-2013, 08:17 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Pertinent thread.....
Our TV LTX Michelin....40000+mi.
....notice the waves going thru the (R) and L.
Bob
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01-22-2013, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Pertinent thread.....
Our TV LTX Michelin....40000+mi.
....notice the waves going thru the (R) and L.
Bob
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And your point?
Those waves will be like that when the tire is bald.
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01-22-2013, 08:34 AM
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#96
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
2017 30' Classic
Summerville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 188
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The picture of the indentations on the side wall of your GYM is where they excessively overlapped the radial ply's in the sidewall during manufacturing. You will notice you do not see this on Michelin tires. Michelin has more precision in the manufacturing process and they have quality standards that would not let a tire like this be sold to a customer.
However, the indentations should not make your tire fail. Tire failure can be caused from many things: age, overloading, low air pressure, poor quality rubber compounding, incorrect placement of the components during manufacturing, etc, the list goes on. Tire failure can be determined by an experienced Tire Engineer. Most tire companies have a department dedicated to determine the cause of tire failure. Some Dealers have also been trained to help with this, but I have found that most dealers do not have the expertise to make an engineering evaluation.
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01-22-2013, 08:41 AM
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#97
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
And your point?
Those waves will be like that when the tire is bald.
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none....we're pointless,
It's not easy being normal.
Bob
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01-22-2013, 09:07 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari
Tyler
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 92
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What's the Bulge?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ResoRon
Attached is a picture of a GYM on my 25FB. There is an indentation in the sidewall (or bulges on either side?) that I was curious if anyone has any idea what it may be (or if it's a problem). Sorry about the lousy picture, it's the best I could get with my cell phone but it is the light are above the "A".
Bought the trailer used (16 months old based on original delivery date) but the tires do look like they have some miles on them. Any ideas what this may be and if so, is it a problem?
Thanks,
Ron
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I pointed out the same bulge(s) to my local Goodyear Tire shop when replacing and buying tires. The service advisor here said that those bulges are the result of splicing the belt together during manufacturing. While there has to be at least one splice to build the tire, I had Canadian GYM's (the originals from Jackson Center) with as many as 3 and 4 bulges.
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01-22-2013, 03:27 PM
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#99
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
none....we're pointless,
It's not easy being normal.
Bob
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Happends at retirement age.
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01-22-2013, 06:17 PM
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#100
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1 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Kirkland
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 17
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Hey, thanks everyone for the comments on the sidewall "tire bulge". Guess I need to refine my searches here a little more as there seems to be plenty of info. it.
Ron
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