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Old 08-21-2012, 06:33 PM   #15
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I have just under 50,000 miles on my Bambi, all on 2 sets of GYM tires. I use a Tire Pressure Monitor, keep a real good eye on them while traveling, and they're changed every 4 years, regardless of appearance.

I'm still open to something better, though. I like the idea of 16" tires.
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I put a set of ST 205 / 14 D kumho 857 on my 1999 25ft safari before my trip from NOVA to yellowstone last month. I have newer rim and did not want to make the $ leap to new rims and i could not find LT 's in 14 so i figure based on specs it was a step up. The 857 are rate as q speed 99mph which is far above the 65mph of most ST's speed rating and I also picked up some weight capacity going from c to d load range.

Always seemed odd that ST are rated so close to typically hwy speeds so that you are always pushing the upper end of their performance rating.

Glad to hear that someone has had good luck with kumho's since you don't hear much about the brand.

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Old 08-22-2012, 06:07 AM   #17
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I put a set of ST 205 / 14 D kumho 857 on my 1999 25ft safari before my trip from NOVA to yellowstone last month. I have newer rim and did not want to make the $ leap to new rims and i could not find LT 's in 14 so i figure based on specs it was a step up. The 857 are rate as q speed 99mph which is far above the 65mph of most ST's speed rating and I also picked up some weight capacity
Good info, thanks.. Wasn't sure what tire to go to when I replaced the 14" GYMs.
These sound perfect..
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:09 AM   #18
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Good info, thanks.. Wasn't sure what tire to go to when I replaced the 14" GYMs.
These sound perfect..
I am understanding this correctly that Airstream makes trailers as long as 23 feet with 14 inch tires?

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Old 08-22-2012, 09:11 AM   #19
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We have a 2005 25FB that we have used a lot. We will top 100,000 miles on the trip that we are now on. We tow hard and fast. On the highway, we are usually at 70 MPH. Our experience with various ST tires has been less than acceptable. Of the four OEM Marathons, three suffered catastrophic failure (blowouts) on the highway within the first 10,000 miles of use. Fortunately, we only suffered minor body damage. We then went with the Maxxis E's. The first set went about 25,000 miles before tread separation did them in. We went with a second set of Maxxis E's. They did not do as well, and suffered tread separation at around 15,000 miles. On this occasion, we were camped in rural northern Maine and had to lay over for three days to wait for ST tires to be shipped in from New York.

It seemed like we were always dealing with trailer tire issues. That is why we finally decided to spend money and go with the 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires. We are now approaching 40,000 miles on the LT's, and are very satisfied with their performance. They show very minimal tread wear. They maintain tire pressure very well. We have hardly ever had to add any air. We run with Centramatic wheel balancers. We have not rotated the tires, and do not plan to do so.

If we were ever to replace our Airstream with a new one. It would be another 25FB, except it would have 16" LT Michelins from day one.

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Brian, did you replace your wheels with 16" aluminum ones? If so, do you remember what they cost?

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Old 08-22-2012, 10:45 AM   #21
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Not Brian here but I put new 16" aluminum wheels on my 20' Argosy and they were about $120 each, purchased locally. Less on line.

I am running 235/75 R 16 LT D range Goodrich tires (not Goodyear) and have had very good results in the past two years. I have 60 psi in them.

The tire is the one that most of the '70's GMC motorhome people have found to work best for them in handling and ride. As the back 4 tires on the GMC are like trailers, with duals front to back not side to side, I decided to try them and so far have been very pleased. I have always been a Michelin fan but went with the somewhat softer ride of the non steel sidewall Goodrich LT tires.
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Yes, the new wheels that I got for Lucy are aluminum. We got them and had them installed at Jackson Center in November of 2010. I purchased the wheels and Michelin LT's as a package. The cost at that time was $328.95 per tire/wheel. We bought five to include the spare.

We had priced the tires and wheels separately, and that by the time we got the tires, got the wheels, had them mounted and balanced, the price was close to what Airstream charged.

We decided to take Lucy to JC and have it done there as we wanted to make sure that everything would fit right. Airstream also sold our old tires and wheels on Ebay for us, and split the proceeds. We ended up getting back about $110.00. We considered this really good as the tires were kind of junky, and the OEM wheels were corroding pretty badly.

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Brian, did the spare tire holder need any modification for the new tire to fit?
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:45 PM   #24
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No, it did not. The new tire/wheel fit perfectly in Lucy OEM spare tire holder without any alterations.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:48 PM   #25
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It seemed like we were always dealing with trailer tire issues. That is why we finally decided to spend money and go with the 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires. We are now approaching 40,000 miles on the LT's, and are very satisfied with their performance. They show very minimal tread wear. They maintain tire pressure very well. We have hardly ever had to add any air. We run with Centramatic wheel balancers. We have not rotated the tires, and do not plan to do so.

If we were ever to replace our Airstream with a new one. It would be another 25FB, except it would have 16" LT Michelins from day one.

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Excellent information, Brian. Even though I have had a good run with them, it's nearly time to change out our current Marathons, and I'm strongly considering 16" LT tires with the Centramatics. We do a lot of traveling, and are tired of worrying about the right tires. Your actual experiences are very helpful. Thanks.
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:55 PM   #26
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We bought our 20 ft in May and have taken trips to the beach. We just got back from the Mammoth area driving through Bishop at about 100 degrees. GYM felt hot but the Bridgestones on our Tahoe felt hotter. They ran fine without problems. 15 inch and 65lbs. By the way, Goodyear went back to making these in China. Our trailer has a built stamp of April 2012
Same here: 15s and 65 psi. Great tire as far as I know. Purchased my Airstream (19') in June and have put over 4000 miles over the summer. No problems -- knock on aluminum.
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We have a 2004 30ft. Classic trailer we bought in late 2004. We don't travel the 1,000's of miles per month many people travel like Brian (Moosetags) drives but by early 2007 we experienced our first GYM failure with a tire while parked in our side yard just before a trip. The inside wall about the size of a salad plate was peeled off the sidewall. You could see the chords inside the tire. Goodyear replaced the tire at 90% refund since the tire showed little wear.
Off on our vacation and two weeks later I checked the tires. I noticed one tire was down on pressure by five lbs. I told my wife THIS TIRE will be the next one to fail. Sure enough the next day on I-5 near Redding the tire lost all its air while traveling no faster than 60 MPH. Put the spare on and came home. Checking tire three when we got home showed tread separation.
By this incident changing a tire on the freeway shoulder I was done with GYM's and used the advice from this site to go to Michelin 16 inch XPS RIB tires and have never looked back.
I NEVER worry about checking tire pressures every rest stop on the freeway to make sure the pressure has not changed. Nor do I worry about blow outs doing damage to the wheel well. I check the tire pressures every spring before our first trip and see no more than 1-2 lbs of loss.
People saying they have a 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 or 25 trailer will probably NEVER have a failure of a GYM tire but realize 30ft Classics weigh over 7,300 lbs dry.

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"People saying they have a 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 or 25 trailer will probably NEVER have a failure of a GYM tire but realize 30ft Classics weigh over 7,300 lbs dry."

That would be similar to the weight the late single-axle 19' and 20' are carrying per tire. Heads up small trailers?

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