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Old 07-14-2007, 12:16 PM   #71
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Paul, I like those new tires/rims! Those are 16", right?
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Hi Marc,

They are 16" wheels with LT225/75R16 LRE tires. BTW, I now have 4 low mileage Goodyear Marathon tires, suitable as tire swings, for sale.

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Old 07-14-2007, 12:50 PM   #72
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:39 PM   #73
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That 10 ply is of interest to me since it has a load capacity of just over 3,000 lbs. That gives me a lot more fudge factor when I'm pulling with a full fresh water tank...
with that hefty slide on 4 legs this make some sense.

you have the classic 5 spoke alcoa wheels?

might wanna check the load rating for them

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Old 07-14-2007, 10:01 PM   #74
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with that hefty slide on 4 legs this make some sense.

you have the classic 5 spoke alcoa wheels?

might wanna check the load rating for them

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Well I'm assuming that the wheels are rated correctly to carry the load rated by the existing Marathon's. I'm not planning on exceeding the trailer gross which is 9100 lbs. So the fact that I'm putting tires on with additional capacity shouldn't be a factor for the wheels. I would just like a little more cushion between what the gross of the trailer is and the max capacity of the tires. If I run maximum gross on the trailer, I'm sitting around 90% of the Marathon's weight capacity.

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Old 07-18-2007, 10:54 PM   #75
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Well ,these days I stay away from this particular thread subject .My advocacy for Maxxis and other non marathon ,tires is well documented in old threads .I run Herculese bias ply on my single axle 60 trdwind .No problems of any kind in many thousands of miles .They are made by CHENG SHIN . they are very well made tires .I just installed some new tires on my 1970 honda trail 90 ,CHENG SHIN again , these are knobby trail tires . Not all want bias ply tires ,but I found them to be excellent in the non failure catagory ,
not as smooth as radials ,but a safe reliable tire is important ,my bet also goes with Michelins ,and excellent tire .

The trail 90 is a cool ,days gone by motorcycle ,mine is mint and going on my airstream travels as soon as figure out how to bring it along .

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Old 08-04-2007, 08:17 PM   #76
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Happy day turned less happy

Maiden voyage with the new to us trailer, (remember, just picked up last weekend as the other one was ready to be towed to salvage); heading to Cape Cod (round 2) and a few miles down I-95 and I can see the rubber trail behind me. Quickly pull over on the shoulder and sure enough the tire is ripped to shreads. I could deal with throwing on the spare, but there is considerable damage to the trailer aft of the tire. Ahhhh, I just got the trailer less than a week ago. So after I propped up the reflective triangles that I purchased yesterday since I realize we didn't have any roadside emergency equipment, and figuring this was a $30 insurance policy against ever needing them (carrying an umbrella), Chuck (moderator) pulls up. He looked at the tire and thought that load range C seemed to be on the light side. We tried to find a tire dealer, but it was late Saturday afternoon, so I nervously made our way the rest of the trip. Tomorrow or Monday we'll make some calls. It appears from the DOT stamp that these are original tires, 1997, so it's time for new shoes and something a little beefier. I hope we have good weather.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:07 PM   #77
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I had a nearly identical tread seperation with an origianal equipment "made in Canada" Goodyear Marathon tire on my 2004 25 foot Safari this May.
Tread speratated and the tire blew out on left rear. I checked pressure and inflated to 65 lbs before the trip. GVW on my rig is 6300 pounds and I am sure it was not overloaded. The tire had less than 10,000 miles. The airtemp was hot, perhaps 100 degrees.
I purchased a no name replacement "made in China tire". Of course I am nervous about the replacement tire, but I don't know what my choices are. I don't know if I have the clearance for 16 inch Michlelins. My Marathons are 225 R 15's load range D.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:12 AM   #78
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I had my old ST225/75R15 LRD tires inflated to 65 PSI cold and were indicating 70+ PSI after two hours running.
The monitor alarmed at 59-57 PSI if memory serves.
These tire just don't explode.
The rubber compounds heat to the point where they loose integrity.
When this happens the belts start to slip.
This causes an air leak.
The tire pressure goes down.
This causes the sidewalls to flex more building up more and more heat.
Thes heat spike causes the rubber to release more rapidly until the tire comes apart.
My personal experience with my Pressure Pro Tire Pressure Monitering System was that by the time I made it to the side of the road and a full stop the tire stil had 20 pounds of pressure in it (as indicated by the Monitor) and had not come apart. Part of the steelbelt was hanging out between the tread lugs though.
These Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are cheap insurance.
Mine was $300.00 plus change.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:42 AM   #79
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....Chuck (moderator) pulls up. He looked at the tire and thought that load range C seemed to be on the light side.
The mod staff is everywhere!

I live just a few miles from the spot...was out doing errands, and just happened to be passing by. Saw the airstream on the other side of the highway, and thought the TV looked familiar...so I turned around to see if I could lend a hand. Of course, Peegreen had it all under control, and I just lent a little moral support.

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....It appears from the DOT stamp that these are original tires, 1997, so it's time for new shoes and something a little beefier. I hope we have good weather.
Well, that explains it. Didn't you say that the seller told you it had "new" (or at least "recent") tires? hmmm....

Plus, it was a really HOT day, yesterday. That might have more than a little bit to do with why the tire picked that particular day to fail.
As for the load range, I don't know that "c" is correct or not. 4 x the 2150lb rating exceeds the gvw of the trailer, but not by a huge amount.

What do M&M have on theirs? I'd contact "golddigger", too. He's got a similar trailer, and has gone through a whole bunch of tires.
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With respect to Load Range "C" being correct for a 30' Excella, that's what was on my 2000 Excella until I put new Load Range "D" tires on at the mothership. The old tires (Goodyear Marathons) still looked good but I changed them because of age. I'm running the new tires at the old recommended pressure - 50 psi - which provides the same load capacity at that pressure as did the C's. Two years so far with the new tires but relatively light travel - probably less than 5,000 miles.

With all of the problems everyone has been having with the Goodyear Marathons it seems like it would be raising a flag at Jackson Center. Is Airstream still using Marathons on the 2007 trailers?
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:52 AM   #81
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Another Marathon Blow-out

Not on my trailer but on my son's SOB. Last week when my son was coming back from a trip he said it felt like a huge dust devil or gigantic gust of wind hit his trailer as it suddenly started whipping back and forth. He looked in the rearview mirror and saw pieces of tire flying up. He has about a 27 ft. Fleetwood of some kind w/ a slideout that he tows with an F-350 Powerstroke.

The Marathons came standard on the trailer when he bought it and it had less than 10k miles on them.

Any class action lawyers out there??? Sadly, it seems like that's the only way things get changed or fixed.
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Is Airstream still using Marathons on the 2007 trailers?
Yes. Our 2007 Classic has the Marathons. I was going to wait a couple years before buying a pressure monitoring system, but Im starting to wonder if I should get one before our 1st trip in Sep. just in case. Sounds like once a tire blows, it can do alot of trailer damage if not detected right away. Am I being paranoid or can I hold off a couple years before dropping a wad on a monitor system?

I can't believe how much cash I have spent on little things for the new trailer, and havn't even taken an extended trip in it yet. Please tell me there is an end to this maddness.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:33 AM   #83
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The Pressure Pro System that I have gives tire pressure and location of tire losing pressure. I kept my old ST225/75R15 LRDs inflated to 65 PSI when the tire pressure in the failing tire dropped to around 58 PSI the monitor alarmed. By the time I had stopped according to the monitor I had 20 PSI left in the tire. I stood there by the side of the road and watched the tire go flat.
On a dual axle trailer the driver cannot feel the tire failing or comming apart.
These things (Tire Pressure Monitering Systems) are cheap insurance.
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:47 AM   #84
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With all of the problems everyone has been having with the Goodyear Marathons it seems like it would be raising a flag at Jackson Center. Is Airstream still using Marathons on the 2007 trailers?
Hi Cracker,

As of this July, AS is still using Goodyear Marathons as standard equipment.

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