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Old 08-06-2008, 09:26 PM   #449
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...My finger said it is steel...Ouch!!
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...I called the local Goodyear dealer today and he said it should be no problem getting it exchanged...
well larry, i think some of the gy dealerships must be franchise based,

with owner/managers that make the decisions about approving replacement tires.

i was given a new replacement for a 3 yr old lumpy tire for pocket change...

while a 2nd tire of the with the same issues and age and tread depth,

but exchanged at a different local gy dealer cost much more, about 40$ as i recall.

you can read about it here is posts 79 and 80...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ons-27999.html

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Old 08-06-2008, 09:36 PM   #450
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The 07' F-250s are 75/75. I run them at 80/80. Hard ride when not towing. great when towing.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:39 PM   #451
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That looks like the tire was not made properly. the steel belt did not stay coherent while the rubber was aplied.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:55 PM   #452
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...But Tom, you seem to have a lot of air in the TV tires. Here's what Lew wrote when I asked about tire pressure: "The PSI should be matched to your tire load, not the max inflation pressure of the tire."
as i recall m'mate was having significant issues with tv stability and a less than ideal reaction to trucks, bow waves and so on...

this is covered well in another thread.

this was towing at the 45-55 psi in e rated tires in a 8500 lb truck towing a 30 ft trailer...

while there is some validity in the quote from lew the rv tech...

the BEST general advice is to run the tires at the pressures recommended by the vehicle manufacturer...

this is often posted on the door jam or b pillar or glove box or owners manual,

TWO pressure ranges are often recommended by the vehicle manufacture (partially and FULLY loaded vehicles).

most e rated LT tires have a load capacity of ~3400 lbs at 80 (max) psi.

and the figures provided by ford (in this example) are 60-75 psi depending on specifics of the truck.

an f250 loaded with gear and towing a 30ft + trailer will have axle loads of 4800-5800 lbs...

or up to nearly 3000 lbs per tire...

and THAT static load increases during braking, turning and other driving dynamics.

so running e rated tires at 70 psi, up to 80 psi is not only prudent and recommended by ford, it is also correct.

i typically tow (f250/34ftstream) at 75-78 psi in the truck tires; the driving experience is MUCH BETTER than at lower pressures.

when NOT towing i sometimes (rarely) lower pressures to 65 rear but keep the fronts at 70-75 since the diesel IS front heavy.

using a tire tread depth gauge is a great way to check for irregular wear,

but of the big truck tire wear has been very even at the higher psi and with 60k + towing on the odo...

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Old 08-07-2008, 02:11 AM   #453
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well larry, i think some of the gy dealerships must be franchise based,
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but exchanged at a different local gy dealer cost much more,
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All of the "Goodyear" dealers around here are franchise based. I don't know if there is such a thing as a "company" store and Goodyear doesn't seem to be much at enforcing any sort of company policy or ethics. With Les Schwab there is still a difference from one dealer to the next but on the whole they are much more reputable. After being charged for a front end alignment at one Goodyear dealer in Woodinville and then crawling under the car to see none of the bolts had been touched in 20 years I quit dealing with them all together. If I want a Goodyear tire I'll buy it somewhere else.

As far as the steel sticking out of the Marathon I don't see how it could be from the belts in the tire. Looks to me like they were molded with recycled "rubber" and the steel is leftovers from grinding up the old tires they were made from. After they were pulled from the mold the steel went "spronge" and the bit that was flat against the mold started to stick out. I think using partially recycled rubber is standard procedure for most tires but in this case the quality control over the step where they separate out the steel with magnets was a bit slack.

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that idea would be easy to test with a pair of pliers.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:13 AM   #455
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2air has a good memory and is correct about the issues with the truck and semi bow waves. Apparently, the dealer had lowered the tire pressure to around 40-45 PSI to make the firm suspension of the F-250 feel softer while on the lot for test drives. Michelle is also correct, the daily commute was a bit hard on the kidneys, but the towing experience was a pleasure after I aired up the tires to the max air pressure. When fully loaded, I typically rested my elbow on the console arm rest and held the steering wheel between my thumb and fore finger for the most part on the interstate where I did most of my towing.

My new truck still has the lower air pressure in it. I haven't towed quite as much with it as I did the '05. I took the strategy of picking a central location for our camping trips for the first half of this year and found a storage facility I was comfortable with and stored the Airstream in that area and did all our camping near by. I brought the Airstream back home after the 4th so we could attend some rallies near home and do some other monthly camping trips within 100 miles of home for the rest of the year.

This saved over $100/trip in fuel and shaved at least an hour of travel time off each leg of the trip by being able to make better time on the interstate. Not to mention that I'm wasn't as tired when I got home from a 450 mile trip home by saving that hour of travel time. I did notice on the trip home after the 4th that I was experiencing some sway in the truck, not the trailer, so I will increase the PSI in the truck tires before doing much more towing and decrease the pressure when I return from each trip. Just one more to-do item as part of the getting ready for camping.
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i could, i probably would and (if it were me) i'd send it to an independent test lab. i'd call it the proverbial "smoking gun".
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Hello all. Getting ready for the 2 cross country tours like last year. Boating coming to a sad end. My concern is the Marathons. Original tires from the factory, no issues ever and they still look brand new. Side walls are almost perfect. No cracks, just some fading from the sun. My question is should I replace and with what? Or, should I believe in my motto, dont fix it if aint broke. Tires are 15 inch marathons on a 2004 28 foot safari. Empty weight is 5700 lbs and I trave light.Date codes look to be 03 mfg date. Most of my towing is in cooler months and I never go over 65mph. I will be looking at 15k miles of towing like last year starting in september through end of march.

I dont mind the cost, but getting new from this forum is not always the best decision. Your input wil be appreciated.
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Maybe my over inflated ego needs changing, and I can't take the pressure, but its all getting just a bit tiresome, so tread on me no more.

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Hey SRW,

Dream on - the big wheels on this forum will take a bead on your post, hit below the belts, and lug this thread back onto the Portal quicker than a Marathon can spring a leak!
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Safari 28, view this video and decide for yourself:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

It seems to me that the general consensus on this forum at one time was replace tires when they get to be 5-6 years old. What you decide to buy when the time comes is up to you based on what you read here and other sources. There are several other threads on which tire brands and durability are discussed. It sounds like your Marathons have proven themselves.
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Dream on - the big wheels on this forum will take a bead on your post, hit below the belts, and lug this thread back onto the Portal quicker than a Marathon can spring a leak!


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Maybe my over inflated ego needs changing, and I can't take the pressure, but its all getting just a bit tiresome, so tread on me no more.

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I hope you guys haven't rubbered anyone the wrong way. We'll have to gauge that later. When the tire questions are all aired out, we can have a big blow out.

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