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Old 10-24-2007, 02:32 PM   #211
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Looks like the I nformation I was given and thus posted here is wrong.

Looks like the ratings per a given size tire are not the same from manufacture to manufacture.

The Michelin chart shows 1530 lbs. at 35 psi, 1680 lbs. at 40 psi, 1825 lbs. at 45 lbs. and 1985 lbs at 50 lbs. for the LT235 75 15
Either way, I believe that a LR C LT rated tire will carry the weigh tof my trailer just fine. Now I wish I had saved the brand new tires off my wrecked Suburban...hindsight...dang. The other option, although more expensive, would be to switch to the 16's. Or try the Maxxis/Greenball/towmasters. I tried the Carlisles on my 71, and wasn't happy with the poor balance of those. I do my own mounting and balancing.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:29 PM   #212
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I wonder about Load range C LT tires for my 63 Overlander. My axle weight on 4 tires is 4700lbs. Axle rating is 6000lbs between the two.
That's 1500lbs per axle, when and if loaded to the max.
That's 1175lbs per tire as it is, travel ready, with 1/2 tank of water.
Seems that XL rating is all that's available in the 225 size, unless I go to a 235/75/R15.

On another note, perhaps those that had tire failures should share here:
Goodyear Marathon Radial
Well I sent mine. Interesting that they have no reviews of this tire up to this point.

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Old 10-24-2007, 04:06 PM   #213
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Well I sent mine. Interesting that they have no reviews of this tire up to this point.

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I saw a few on there. Are you sure? maybe I looked at the wrong size.
OK, checked again, 21 reviews, amny of them had blow outs, but it's hard to tell from teh reviews what happened. Some of the reviews are stellar, others downright poor. I did not see your review, Jack.
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I am very suprised with the bad experiences people have had with Goodyear Marathons. I have used them on my '60 Overlander since 1986 without any problems, even when we accidently got the load range C's once. (Mine is a single axle trailer which should have the LR D's.)

Food for thought... Without weighing the individual wheels on your loaded trailer it is impossible to know if an individual tire is overloaded. It is easy to overload one side or axle, as the trailers are not always well balanced side to side, and an improperly adjusted hitch can overload either the front or rear axle.

My trailer has 90% of the easily accessable storage on the heavy side of the trailer. Go figure!
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:09 PM   #215
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I am very suprised with the bad experiences people have had with Goodyear Marathons. I have used them on my '60 Overlander since 1986 without any problems, even when we accidently got the load range C's once. (Mine is a single axle trailer which should have the LR D's.)

Food for thought... Without weighing the individual wheels on your loaded trailer it is impossible to know if an individual tire is overloaded. It is easy to overload one side or axle, as the trailers are not always well balanced side to side, and an improperly adjusted hitch can overload either the front or rear axle.

My trailer has 90% of the easily accessable storage on the heavy side of the trailer. Go figure!
I share the same good experience, even though I don't think the tires are very well made. However, people that I trust and would never doubt their statements have had major issues with them.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:43 AM   #216
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Many people do and have good luck , but it is not the right way . Tire should be removed from wheel and patched from the inside .
Hi, at the dealer we have not plugged tires for years due to manufacture warranty and liability issues. Also many years ago I read a notice from Chevron Headquarters makeing it manditory to remove tires and patch them from inside. The reason behind this was an article telling about a customer who had a slow leak in one of his tires. He pulled next to the pumps and asked if someone could fix his tire. One of the gas station attendants was attempting to do the repair on the spot. The tire blew up putting the attendant in the hospital with several broken bones and several windows in the gas station and passing by cars also got broken. The investigation showed that the customer had used some type of Seal & Air to reinflate his tire. This air in a can had a form of hydrogen gas and when the attendant used the tire reamer, it hit a metal cord and caused a spark. Who would have thought? And yes, many years ago, I also plugged a few tires. Not any more!
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:07 AM   #217
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Tire Pluging

The explination I got was this:
The plug must seal the "Air Bladder" area of the tubeless tire.
If it does not seal the Air Bladder area but seals only the layers of rubber close to the outer surface of the tire, the air pressure will work itself into the layers of the tire, between the steel belts Etc causing seperation of the these layers.
The propellant of choice for most of the aerosol cans a few years back (hair spray, spray paint, deodorant, tire patch etc) was a freon material. Not flamable, however, the material the freon was pushing out of the can usually was quite flamable (tire patch has rubber solvents in it which is very flamable). Now its propane or butane or some other type of "hydrocarbon gas"
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I have been plugging my tires for many years. The plugs have always lasted until the tires were worn down to the wearout indication ribs, without a problem.

I have recently read that some are now recommending both inside patches AND plugs. The reason: water can enter the hole made by the penetrating object. When this happens, the steel wires within the tire can rust, causing tire failure. Just one more thing for us neurotics to worry worry worry about.

Well, if this is true, my steel isn't going to rust, because I plug the hole. If I'm getting cord shift, I never have been able to tell it. So far.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:00 AM   #219
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Like so many things, it depends on who does it, and how. If you do it carefully, and use plenty of the rubber cement in the kit, then there should not be a problem. I would absolutely never plug a hole at or anywhere near a sidewall, though.
But, to be sure, it's just probably safer to have the hole patched in the first place. I just happen to have had very good luck with my side-of-the-road tire repairs.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:45 AM   #220
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I saw a few on there. Are you sure? maybe I looked at the wrong size.
OK, checked again, 21 reviews, amny of them had blow outs, but it's hard to tell from teh reviews what happened. Some of the reviews are stellar, others downright poor. I did not see your review, Jack.
I'll look again but when I called up reviews and Goodyear tires, I didn't see the Marathon listed. I saw auto and truck tires but nothing for trailers.

According to the site it may take up to two weeks for a review to be posted.

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Old 10-25-2007, 10:41 AM   #221
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Patching tires from the inside used to be the preferred method when repairing a nail hole. But the vulcanizing process could take up to 30 minutes per tire. Now there are plugs that are designed to repair radial tires and are self-vulcanizing. That is to say after they heat up from driving, they "melt" into the tire and become one piece. This is again the preferred method because it is much faster to do.
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I plugged tires years ago and never had a problem. Maybe I'm just lucky. Something I had to because I was out in the wilderness and didn't want to have to be without a 5th tire for the truck in case of another flat in a really strange place. Four wheeling leads to punctures from sharp rocks, especially when driving through rivers. I have not seen plug repair kits in a long time, but Bob's mention of self-vulcanizing plugs gives me hope.
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I plugged tires years ago and never had a problem. Maybe I'm just lucky. Something I had to because I was out in the wilderness and didn't want to have to be without a 5th tire for the truck in case of another flat in a really strange place. Four wheeling leads to punctures from sharp rocks, especially when driving through rivers. I have not seen plug repair kits in a long time, but Bob's mention of self-vulcanizing plugs gives me hope.
This is what they look like, that's sort of what I have been using:
Amazon.com: Slime 2040-A Tire Plug Kit: Automotive

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Question MFG Change?

I was told by a AS owner that Goodyear changed the way Marathon's were being manufactured sometime in 2006.

he was told they started adding an additional membrane to prevent tread separation.

I would like it to be true, but got to wonder.

Anyone hear anything about this?

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