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Old 07-18-2016, 03:53 PM   #29
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Happy Bloody Days, delamination.

Well a friend just emailed me and said he had a Goodyear marathon delaminate on him, it was a 2012 with plenty of tread. Well I thought I would come on here and do some reading. You boys sure know how to depress a man when it comes to tires.
We have the same tire 2010 on our 25 footer, they look very good. After checking the tread, the outside is a little lower than the inside in terms of wear but otherwise I would not bother worrying about them, until now.
So what advice would you give me, what checks would you perform.
All I know is, if I tell the wife we need a new set, she will find someone to make a bunch of shoes for me out of the Goodyear tread because they just look so good.
So come on lads, help a simple peasant please, when I read BENDING AXLES AND FANCY ALIGNMENT, I START GETTING WORRIED !!!!!
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Old 07-18-2016, 03:54 PM   #30
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They look perfectly normal one weekend, but then the very next weekend...
Poof!
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Old 07-18-2016, 03:56 PM   #31
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We have the same tire 2010 on our 25 footer . . .
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If I had any tires that were 6 years old, I would get them replaced before any significant road trip IMO.

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Old 07-18-2016, 04:38 PM   #32
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It appears the tires are still mounted. That means there is another chapter to the story. Interested to hear the tire techs take on the GYM condition when they come off the rims.

It is supposed to be possible to determine condition by spinning each tire and checking radial and lateral run out. There is also reported to be a difference in quality between US and Foreign manufactured tires.

Travel safe. Pat
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:44 PM   #34
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So what advice would you give me, what checks would you perform.
All I know is, if I tell the wife we need a new set, she will find someone to make a bunch of shoes for me out of the Goodyear tread because they just look so good.
So come on lads, help a simple peasant please, when I read BENDING AXLES AND FANCY ALIGNMENT, I START GETTING WORRIED !!!!!
Without a TPS system the way to know if a tire is on it's way to a blowout is to touch each tire just after you stop. A tire that is coming apart inside will run hotter, you won't be able to hold your hand on it, than the others.

Coming home last winter while the temperature was just above freezing I had one running very hot and the tread had high and low spots. Went to a garage and asked to have the spare mounted. The mechanic said the front tire, that one showed ware, I said no the middle one. I had stopped long enough for the heat to dissipate and the irregularity had disappeared. You have to catch them while they are hot.
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If the tires are dated 2010 you have already checked everything you need to check. Get them replaced.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:00 PM   #36
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5 years old? Replace them, if it blows out, it will do damage to your shiny trailer, not worth taking a chance over the price of new tires...
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:05 PM   #37
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That wear pattern is not caused by the tired but by the axle/wheel having way to much positive camber. If not fixed you will have the same result in your michelins.

Why would he need an axle alignment on a 2013 trailer unless he hit some serious chuckholes or a curb ?
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Well a friend just emailed me and said he had a Goodyear marathon delaminate on him, it was a 2012 with plenty of tread. Well I thought I would come on here and do some reading. You boys sure know how to depress a man when it comes to tires.
We have the same tire 2010 on our 25 footer, they look very good. After checking the tread, the outside is a little lower than the inside in terms of wear but otherwise I would not bother worrying about them, until now.
So what advice would you give me, what checks would you perform.
All I know is, if I tell the wife we need a new set, she will find someone to make a bunch of shoes for me out of the Goodyear tread because they just look so good.
So come on lads, help a simple peasant please, when I read BENDING AXLES AND FANCY ALIGNMENT, I START GETTING WORRIED !!!!!
GYM tires are junk. If you are lucky when they peel you won't end up having to replace the entire side of your trailer.
On these forums you are a road hazard waiting to happen unless:
1. Your Tow Vehicle is a F-350 Diesel or something comparable.
2. You are using a Hensley or Propride hitch, absolutely nothing else will do.
3. Must upgrade to 16" wheels and Michelin Tires that don't have a "P" on it.
4. Must have Centramatics and a tire pressure monitor.
And that's just for starters.
Of course you can get smart do your own research and enjoy your trailer your way.
I tow a 2013 30' International with a 2012 Ford F-150 Platinum Ecoboost. I replaced the GYM road hazard tires with Michelin LTX P235 R15 tires without centramatics use a Blue Ox hitch. I travel out west every year, have been up and down every pass including Monarch plus some without names never feeling the need for a bigger truck and I am still alive posting here ready to hit the road for the Rockies National Park again in two weeks.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:36 PM   #39
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GYM tires are junk. If you are lucky when they peel you won't end up having to replace the entire side of your trailer.
On these forums you are a road hazard waiting to happen unless:
1. Your Tow Vehicle is a F-350 Diesel or something comparable.
2. You are using a Hensley or Propride hitch, absolutely nothing else will do.
3. Must upgrade to 16" wheels and Michelin Tires that don't have a "P" on it.
4. Must have Centramatics and a tire pressure monitor.
And that's just for starters.
Of course you can get smart do your own research and enjoy your trailer your way.
I tow a 2013 30' International with a 2012 Ford F-150 Platinum Ecoboost. I replaced the GYM road hazard tires with Michelin LTX P235 R15 tires without centramatics use a Blue Ox hitch. I travel out west every year, have been up and down every pass including Monarch plus some without names never feeling the need for a bigger truck and I am still alive posting here ready to hit the road for the Rockies National Park again in two weeks.
PS: I am doing all this traveling with two bikes hanging of the back of the trailer with a non Airstream bike rack in a hitch I fabricated and installed myself. And to my surprise the trailer floor is still attached to the frame and the frame hasn't bent or given way.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:58 PM   #40
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Just drove back from South Florida to Tennessee. There were two vehicles pulled off to the side with blow outs. What were they? You probably guessed. One a fifth wheel and the other a travel trailer. No Airstreams although I did see several on I 75.

Earlier my son pulled his 26' boat back from Florida. 2 blowouts with ST tires load range E. fortunatly, he stopped and picked up another spare to replace the first blow out. They were not GYMs. ST tires to me are suspect.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:14 AM   #41
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To answer a few of the questions that popped up:

We run a TST TPMS system which has a default temperature alarm setting of 157 degrees. We have never tripped the temperature or pressure alarm. Our summer trips typically are 3-6 weeks in length and tire pressure is verified/corrected before we pull out of each campground. The TPMS makes it so easy to monitor there is no reason to not be on top of it.

We had the trailer go through the typical multi-point dealer service center inspection last year prior to our trip. This did not detect any alignment issue nor did a simple check using a straight edge I performed as part of dewinterizing. This could easily have been missed by the service center or my own lack of experience. As there was not visible difference in tread wear prior to the trip nothing jumped out.

We traveled 3600 miles last summer through the southwest with very high temperatures at road speeds of up to 65 MPH. I suspect this contributed to the deterioration. In the multiple years of summer trips we have hit the occasional small pothole and rough road but nothing I would call severe or anything that sticks in memory. The most memorable moment being a really good test of the brakes due to a suicidal turkey. Certainly we have not seen items (TV, cushions, ect.) in the trailer dislodged.

Finally my apologies if the title was misleading as that was not intentional - essentially it was a tire disaster dogged regardless of if it was the fault of the GYMs.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:10 AM   #42
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Tires have always been a hot topic on the forum. After reading the horror stories on the forum I was extremely nervous with the GYM's so after a couple of years I changed them to Michelins. While checking the pressure this spring I noticed the the Michelins had severe cracks. I was shocked. I thought when I upgraded my tire worries were over. Cant remember exactly but they are ether 3 or 4 years old. I was thinking about getting a TPMS but now I am not sure its a good idea. I would not have notices the cracks if it I wasn't on my knees checking the pressure the old fashion way.
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