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Old 03-11-2015, 02:46 PM   #1
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Gladiator tires????

Hi everyone.

After 12 years, I am finally going to get my 2003 19 CCD check up and new tires and a brake check.

I'm still running the original GY Marathons and despite all the terrify stories I ended up being really happy with ours. They held air forever, ussually didn't have to top off except for Spring and fall. Even today, I don't really see any dry rot, though I Keep them covered when not in use.

The dealer-service place near me in Chicago, USAdventureRV, said they could just replace the Marathons for about $175.00 per tire includes mounting etc. They will also check the brakes. Anyone use AdventureRV for service?

The service manager also mentioned Gladiator(?) tires, QR25-TS. They are 225-75 R15 D-8 ply whatever all that means. They cost $130.00 per tire.

Anyone familiar with these tires? Trying not to go crazy with cost here.

Thank you for your insight.

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Old 03-11-2015, 04:38 PM   #2
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Also, it was mentioned that trailer wheels/tires don't need balancing when they are replaced. Is this true? This from USAdventure RV.

The more I read, the more i think I might go back with Marathons. Any advice welcome.

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Old 03-11-2015, 04:51 PM   #3
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Between those 2 tires I would get the Marathons. Yes, trailer tires do neen balancing, particularly on Airstreams.
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I ran my GYM's for 4 years and one tire started getting a cupping accross the tread so I pulled into a commercial truck tire dealer and had the Gladiators installed. I have about 8000 mi on them and they still look new. I like so far.
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Tires 101 :)

Wee Tire Primer:

225-75 R 15

225 is the width of the tire in mm

75 is the section height of the rubber, as a percentage of the width. So the height of the rubber (from the wheel to the surface of the tread) is 75% of 225mm, which is 168.75mm. You will have this both on top of the wheel, and at the bottom. 168.75mm/25.4= 6.64"

R means it's a radial (as opposed to a bias ply tire)

Q is, I think in this context, the speed rating, which I believe is 99mph.
That means the tire is tested to work OK at a sustained 99mph.
This is much better than the 65mph rating on some ST tires.
This is most likely an LT tire.

15 is the diameter of the wheel in inches.

D is the load rating of the tire, which is equivalent to the older rating system of plies, by being an 8 ply. By comparison an E rated tire is a 10 ply. A C rated tire is something less....a 6 ply I think? I don't know, I only run D's or E's.

So to calculate the width, divide 225/25.4 = 8.86"
To calculate the height, it's 2 x 6.64 + 15 = 28.28".

I can't speak to the Gladiator brand. The numbers are all good on it.

I stumbled across, and have very good luck with, the Maxxis UE-168 235/75-15 Load Range D tire. It's a Commercial tire, rated both as an LT (Light Truck) and ST (Special Trailer). I think it's basically a truck tire that they've added extra UV protectants into the sidewalls like most ST's have. I've pulled them 25,000 miles and at speeds higher than I'll say and they've been great.

The best option I think is to upgrade to 16" wheels and get Michelins. But barring that, make sure you get a quality 15" tire.

And by all means, BALANCE THEM!!!!

See ya on the road,
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:24 PM   #6
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Thank you all so much for the replies. I just wonder why they said to not balance. Not instilling much confidense....and is balancing done using the lead weights on the back of the wheel? Are those weights on the oposite side?

Either way, AdventureRV has theor tires mounted someplace else since the don't have the machine.

Wish someone had experoence with this place + or -

Thanks.

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Many trailers are built for utillity not confort. As such they don't travel very fast either. Slower speeds with utillity function and not a high dollar pay load, why bother balancing the tire/wheel assembly?

And it is pretty much old school thinking. And what are we saving.... a couple of bucks a wheel?

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Hi, any tires and wheels used on public highways need to be balanced. Your drums will need to be balanced too since they are not balanced like drums used on cars and trucks. I use Centramatics for this.
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Many trailers are built for utillity not confort. As such they don't travel very fast either. Slower speeds with utillity function and not a high dollar pay load, why bother balancing the tire/wheel assembly?

And it is pretty much old school thinking. And what are we saving.... a couple of bucks a wheel?

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Hi, any tires and wheels used on public highways need to be balanced. Your drums will need to be balanced too since they are not balanced like drums used on cars and trucks. I use Centramatics for this.
Yes, spin balance tires and Centramatic balance hubs.
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......Q is, I think in this context, the speed rating ......
Sorry, but that is in part of the name of the tire = Gladiator QR25-TS. These tires carry no speed rating - other than they are ST tires which have the 65 mph speed limitation.

(Side comment: I don't understand why many folks publish specs on ST tires and don't highlight the 65 mph speed limitation. Seems to me this is something very important!)
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Yes, spin balance tires and Centramatic balance hubs.
Information for what it's worth: Two weeks ago at the Alumaflamingo Rally the representative of Dexter Axle gave a presentation. He stated that the Centramatics were contraindicated on Airstreams. The wheels on Airstreams require a 0 degree offset. Adding the Centramatics changes that relationship and will cause additional wear on the bearings.

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OK. So I have two camps here: one that says not to worry about wheel balancing and the other saying definitely balance, and the service people saying they don't normally balance. We travel at no more than 63MPH when towing. We are also low mileage travelers.

You guys have been great! Anyone else care to add anything. It would be so easy if everyone agreed on all points, that would make decision easy but alas...
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Balancing is really inexpensive when tires are installed.
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