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Old 05-16-2009, 11:29 AM   #15
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Ue-168

If you like Maxxis, check out the UE-168. It's a dual rated tire; an LT and ST. I think it's basically an LT tire with extra UV inhibitor in the sidewalls.

I have the Load Range D version in 225/70-15 on my Avion 34X tri-axle. I've towed them about 5-6000 miles so far and not had any trouble at all. Like the other fellows, I run 60psi in them.

Just as a test I ran them last summer on a 90+ degree day up to about 75mph for about 20 miles, then pulled off the road quickly and went back to check them. I could lay my hand on them and it wasn't uncomfortable. Not real scientific, but I'd say they were at least under 130 degrees F. Probably more like 120. I need to repeat with one of those infrared thermometers, but I don't have one yet (neat piece of gagetry those).

Anyway, if you want to stay with Maxxis, I'd heartily recommend this tire.

On my Avion, the gross weight is 9600lbs, and with six of these tires, my capacity is somewhere around 16,000lbs, so I've got plenty of safety margin.

Best bet, I think though, is to get new wheels and upgrade to 16" or 17". The selection will really open up for you then. I plan to do that sometime. Just $$$$ with six of them

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Old 05-16-2009, 02:15 PM   #16
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Hello - I posted this question on a thread titled Cooper Custom Trailer Plus yesterday,but will also ck here. We are looking into replacement tires & read the Cooper thread w/interest, but when I called Cooper tire, they indicated that the above mentioned tire has been discontinued??? Anyway, they suggested I call some local wholesalers who might sell direct. I called one (they did not have), but they told me that Cooper manufactures a trailer tire they said was the same? under the "National" brand? Does anyone know of this and/or has anyone used a National tire? It is called Akuret. Thanks
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Leigh, if you're having trouble finding them now, it could be a real problem 3 years from now if you were to damage and need to replace a tire. You may want to consider buying a tire with a good reputation plus be easy to find should a replacement be needed out on the road.
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Thanks for the reply Bob. Yes, we have figured that the Cooper Custom is out (altho the Customer Serv. rep @Cooper did say they were getting a lot of calls for that particular tire). I am wondering about this other tire manufactured by Cooper but under the National brand, tho. Have you heard of an Akuret? Suppose to be made by Cooper? I guess I could call back to Cooper CS for varifiction on Mond. but also wondered if any one here has used them? Thanks.
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Carlisle radial trails

I have been thinking about this thread for a few days and decided to see how my new Carlisles are doing. I have a little over a thousand miles on them now. To my surprise the yellow stripes down the center are still visible. In looking a little closer I can also see that the center of the tire really doesnt make contact with the street surface? Ok this is visible by not only the yellow stipes but the soft excess rubber seam at the center of the tire. I decided to take a picture of this gap and was able to slide .022 into the center tread of the tire. I decided on these tires as this trailer has an empty weight of UVW 8165. Start adding water, tanks and excess and your up at the GVW of 9100 quickly. So more about the tires.
Carlisle radial trails ST225/75 R15 Load E 2830LB's @ 80psi. I have them set to 65 cold and have checked the pressure on a hot day just after the freeway and they were at 70psi. They have 8plys on the tread.. not 8 ply rated but actually 8 plys and 2 ply sidewalls.

So. Is it designed to wear in flat after a few thousand miles or will it continue to behave like this. This trailer is heavy and I have had my son ride in it while traveling and he said its like crusing in a caddy. No vibration or harsh hits when going on rough surfaces. This is just an observation of how these tires are behaving with my set up.. not meant to be a hyjack of this tread.

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Well, here is some interesting info I came across while researching. Thought it might come in handy for others here. I have discovered that the Akuret is a private brand tire sold thru Del-Nat. They indicated that private brands are manufactured by various National manufacturers so I have not varified they are made by Cooper. I'll keep looking. I also learned the Akuret is an all season tire - some are not. Anyway...this doesn't relate to trailer tires specifically, but has some very good tire info...

Sunday, June 8, 2008




B F Goodrich Long Trail T/A,

OK, what did you do with your stimulus check. Did you buy something made in America? I bought something made in America by American craftsman. I bought 4 new tires for my American made GMC pickup truck. The tires were made in the USA but the company that owns the plant is Michelin and they are French.

I bought 4 BF Goodrich tires. BF Goodrich used to be American owned but in the 1980's Michelin bought them out. I did a lot of research of who owns what and there are two major American owned and American made automobile tire companies left in America. They are Goodyear and Cooper tires. Goodyear is the world's largest tire manufacturer, they manufacture the best and near worst tires. Cooper tires have a few plants but the ones in Texarkana Arkansas and Tupelo Mississippi have seen nothing but problems over the past few years with process, management, quality control and material. They have had quite a few recalls. The last ones just occured in March of 2008. Check here to see if your tires or vehicle are under a recall. Recalls.Gov

I ended up buying BF Goodrich tires for a few reasons. The first reason is they are made in America by Americans. The plant they were made at according to the DOT code is Tuscaloosa Alabama. The whole process of choosing the right tire for the right price was made much easier by a website called The Tire Rack. I found the right size tires, I read the customer reviews and then compared the prices. The whole time I was doing this I kept in mind that for me the tires had to be made in the USA and they had to be of recent manufacture (tires are good for 6 years).

The DOT code on the tire tells the story of where it's made and when it's made. The first two digits after the initials DOT are the codes for the manufacturer. The last three or four digits tell when the tires are made according to the week and year. Here's an example, my new tires had the DOT code that looked like this: DOT BE ---- 4207. The "BE" indicates the BF Goodrich plant in Tuscaloosa Alabama. The dashes represent the manufacturers size and style codes. The "4207" at the end indicates they were manufactured in the 42nd week of 2007 (the week of October 21st 2007).

Anyway, my new tires look nice, they ride nice and they were manufactured here in the good old USA even though the company that owns the plant is based in France. That was an acceptable compromise to me.

Now tell us how you spent your stimulus check or we can talk about tires if you like.

Here's some links to check out your own tires.

NHTSA Manufacturer's information
(uncheck all the boxes at the left except for tires and enter the first two digits of your DOT code at the very bottom box marked DOT ID)

Autopedia a comprehensive list of tire manufacturers.

All the DOT Tire Plant Codes

Sidewall Markings at Tire Rack Tech Center
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All the DOT tire plant codes...

Oh goody. Here's my tires birthplace... CARLISLE TIRE & RUBBER CO., LTD --> BU JI TOWN --> SHENZHEN --> CHINA
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A question I've researched but can't find an answer to. Looking at Maxxis trailer tires, they offer three options (ST225/75R 15)

6 ply Load Range C 2150 pounds @ 50 PSI
8 ply Load Range D 2150 pounds @ 50 PSI 2540 pounds @ 65 PSI
10 ply Load Range E 2150 pounds @ 50 PSI 2540 pounds @ 65 PSI 2830 pounds @ 80 PSI


For my trailer I would need the 2150 @ 50 PSI - would buying the tires with more plies give me more protection against the 'blow out' problems that are the subject of so many other threads? Or is blow out not related to the number of plies and max load rating? My present wheels will 'take' 65 PSI, so I could go with the Load Range D or E tires & the higher PSI, if that helped the problem. My inclination is to go with the D tires and run them at 50 PSI - is this the right way to go? The two extra plies over the C tires would give me some safety margin against a blow out?

Thanks in advance for your opinions & info?
Yeah! If you are going with 2150 then your problem with be solved. I am not sure but I think.
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What I can't get over is the goofs who buy 6000 pound 454 cu in vehicles and complain about the mileage. Duh, what did they think?

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Carlisle radial trails ST225/75 R15 Load E 2830LB's @ 80psi.
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I just ordered the exact same tires (2) for my single axle '64 Safari. I will plan to run them at 65 or 70 psi. I will certainly report how they perform. At Discount Tire the Maxxis version was $30 more per tire.
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I just ordered the exact same tires (2) for my single axle '64 Safari. I will plan to run them at 65 or 70 psi. I will certainly report how they perform. At Discount Tire the Maxxis version was $30 more per tire.
If you have steel wheels that have been in service for an extended period of time, you must replace them when you increase the tire load range.

If not, they will split around the inner circumference, as per wheel manufacturers warnings.

That can happen going from "C's" to "D's" as well as going from "D's" to "E's".

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If you have steel wheels that have been in service for an extended period of time, you must replace them when you increase the tire load range.

If not, they will split around the inner circumference, as per wheel manufacturers warnings.

That can happen going from "C's" to "D's" as well as going from "D's" to "E's".

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Good to know, and I should have stated that I also ordered new Aluminum Wheels, also rated for 2800# each.
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Good to know, and I should have stated that I also ordered new Aluminum Wheels, also rated for 2800# each.
Good, now that worry is over, but "E's" are not recommended by Airstream.

Also, you should probably install the wheel balancers, since next to no one can balance the tire, wheel hub and drum, as an assembly.

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I just ordered the exact same tires (2) for my single axle '64 Safari. I will plan to run them at 65 or 70 psi. I will certainly report how they perform. At Discount Tire the Maxxis version was $30 more per tire.
I am very happy with these tires so far. We are staying in Grand Canyon right now and have traveled some rough road at high temperatures. I set the cold tire pressure to 65lbs. On the hottest part of the trip when i pulled over at a rest stop i checked the pressures and they were 71psi. So when they heated up they increased by 6 psi. I purposly put a few things on the counters while traveling and to my amazement they rode right where they sat. These trailers are amazing how they ride. There was a crazy section of I-40 that had rolling dips on the road. The sign warned of it but I had no idea it would be as bad as it was. I expected to find everything on the floor when we stopped but it was all intact and in good order. Even though the tires are load range E the trailer is heavy and I think they suit my application well. I hope they work well for you too.

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