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Old 11-04-2008, 06:05 PM   #29
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In post 17 you stated you were going to Walmart to replace tires. Did you? Or are you still considering the Coopers?

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I still am looking at the Cooper CUSTOM TRAILER PLUS tire.I am going to talk to a dealer tomorrow.I am going to see if I can get the price down.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:30 PM   #30
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Some intersting information I dug up on Cooper Tires:

Tire Defects - Defective Cooper Tires, Unsafe Production and Cooper Tire Tread Separations
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:52 PM   #31
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Info is eight years old. Is it still of any use?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:13 PM   #32
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Not likely. Lawsuits have an interesting way of changing how business does business in the future.

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Info is eight years old. Is it still of any use?
Probably not, and I questioned weather to post it or not, but decided to do it anyway to issustrate that just because tires are built in the US by a US company, does not guarantee they are without quality issues. And, just because there was a law suit, does not mean they are, or were bad either. What I found interesting was the Cooper employee statements, and some of their procedures.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:45 AM   #34
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My interest in Cooper's is not simply because they are made in the U.S., but because they seem to have a better reputation than say, Goodyear Marathons. If someone local stocked Maxxis, I might buy them but it seems the only place I can find them is via the Internet and the shipping price is a bit salty. I'm still not excluding the possibility of running Michelin LT tires. I've had good luck with Michelin's over the years. My brother swears by his Toyos for his truck.

As for quality issues, it seems every manufacturer deals with these issues including Airstream. In general, I think the quality of tires is higher than back in the day when I was looking for skinny 16.5" tires to run on my '52 Chevy's split rims. One of the reasons I bought a tandem axles vintage is my general nervousness about catastrohic failure. I'll also probably install a TPMS on the trailer before we start our epic travels. Still, I need to pull the trigger on something to do our tow at the end of the month... so the question remains open.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:28 AM   #35
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... In general, I think the quality of tires is higher than back in the day when I was looking for skinny 16.5" tires to run on my '52 Chevy's split rims.

To do a tougher job. Speed limits or at least actual speed limits are higher handling much greater loads. Doing this with less rolling resistance and to some degree able to with stand more road hazards. In my opinion today's tires are doing a pretty good job no matter what the brand.

And everything could always be better.

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Well, getting the '52 to 55 on the highway meant really leaning on the old 216 (with dippers). On the other hand, all of that straight six torque and the 411 rear end meant I could pull stumps.

I agree that speeds and loads are greater. I also think catastrophic failures (blow outs) are far less common. Back in the day, there were a lot of miles put on some pretty shaky retreads. In my particular situation, I'm pulling a vintage trailer that will tip the scales at under 5000 pounds (post renovation). Spreading out 5k over a tandem axle is a pretty reasonable load... particularly when I like to pull at 60 to 65 mph max.

While I think things could be better, I do think innovations like TPMS make driving more safe.
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I would agree with you that blow outs and tire failures in general are far less than what occurred when my unit was built. And i believe that most focus not on the achievements of tire (or for that matter any other tech stuff) and rather on what went wrong.

With that stated, what works for me is buying a reasonable priced tire that is designed to do the load expected. (My bullet is quite simlar to yours) Which means I am not brand specific because I do not believe the brands offer that much difference (because of design) and rather the care and usage reflects the durability of the tire. And that I have first hand experience with.

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And that, Action, is perfectly reasonable. I, however, am subject to lapses of reason when it comes to over-engineering things. I agree that proper maintenance goes a long ways to avoiding failures. It makes no sense to buy high-end equipment and then neglect it.

When it comes to consumables (like tires), I generally try find a solid value-price point... and if things go well, I usually have a good deal of brand loyalty. That said, I haven't run the Overlander enough to go through tires... yet.
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Just got this email today from Cooper Tire.

"Yes we still manufacture the Custom trailer plus ST225/75R15 here in the USA."
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I Just talked to Cooper tire and they pointed out this tire has an S speep rating thats like 112 MPH not the 65 MPR that most ST type trailer tires have.
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I'm picking up four Cooper Custom Trailer Plus tires today. Unfortunately, it will take a long time before I will be able to report back on the wear and handling.
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Shafted!

I just received a call from the tire shop. They said yesterday the Cooper's would be in today. Wrong. They may be able to get them in a week or two. May. I need to get good rubber on the Overlander and I can't be waiting on pins and needles for tires that may be coming. The tire shop then pitched Carlisles. Carlisles! If I wanted Carlisles I can buy them anywhere for $85 a pop. If anyone from Cooper Tires is reading this, feel free to drop me a note.
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