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Old 02-07-2007, 03:09 PM   #1
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Chinese Goodyear Marathons

I've HAD IT- HAD IT with all the import crap out there. Just got back from the local Goodyear Store. I was looking for Marathons yup we got 8 of them in stock. Fine I say, where are they made? Well lets look yup all 8 China. O.K. I say what else you got Carlisle. Guess what Made in china also. I left Hell will freeze over before I put that crap on my AS. Good luck to all you getting new rigs- do the country a favor and refuse delivery until AS puts on some real rubber. And to top it all off when I went to the Hobby shop for parts for my R/C whirleybird they were closed.Guess I didn't need that chinese junk either. ANY OTHER AMERICANS OUT THERE?? Semper FI
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:16 PM   #2
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Welcome to the club! There is nothing out there anymore that does not come from China, but think about it, where else can you get someone to work for $1.74 a day without benefits? I know, you and I have put our butts on the line for this country, but no matter where you go in this world, UK, Spain, France, Russia, they all have the same China stuff! As soon as the Chinese workers get smart (give them 10 years) all mfg. will leave China and be in some other country. We can't win this one.
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China may not be where you want your parts made, however it is a price sensitive market out there. And when the consumer votes with their dollar to buy cheaper, vendors are wondering where their sales went when the buyer goes to the competition. If the competitor gets their product from China and vendor has to make a decision to compete with the buyer. Either get out of that specific market, sell lesser quanities and deal with the objections of buyers over why price is so high, or join the others and build the product cheaper. (IE in China in this case)

One or two individuals won't make a difference. Tire dealers and manufacturers sell hundreds of tires daily.

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I only suggest it because I don't think they are built in China. And they will be priced more.

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:13 PM   #6
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Well I changed out my 1995 marathons this week. Turned out to be a pain. Sometimes I think tire shops make money by accident. Anyway I ended up with Tow Masters from Canada. Supposedly they are a goodyear somethin or other. We'll see, It's gettin worse day by day. I wonder how much chinese crap is in the new trailers. DG
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2 years ago Lynn and I wanted to buy our grandson a Radio Flyer wagon. About that time there was a news story that the manufacturer was closing their only Radio Flyer plant in Chicago. We search every store from Placerville (except 1) to Sacramento and to Oakland. Same Radio Flyer product same box all 'made in China' Now we do not have anything against China but RADIO FLYER WAGONS ARE AS AMERICAN AS.......and we weren't giving up! Now the happy search ending. We went into Hangtown Hardware in Placerville, the oldest hardware in the west, and by gum they had a few all made IN THE USA! Our grandson got his American made wagon and I kept the box. So there!

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Well not Marathons.....

The other day while I was remounting my wheels/rims at the storage building I took a few minutes and browsed the other units to see what types of tires the SOB's use. I saw several new 5th wheels that were using load range E Goodyear Wrangler HT's. Very nice looking, load capacity was like 2700lbs, Made In the USA!!l and an attractive tread.

I dont know why you would need a dedicated trailer tire as long as it met the load range and proper size. Check out the Goodyear website to see the HTs.

I have 6k on my Marathons (made in Canada), with good luck. They do however have some strange bulges at the point where the sidewall was put together.
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The pet food fiasco should become a significant warning about the quality of goods coming from China. Bad gluten and melamine contamination results in lost lives of beloved cats and dogs. Who knows what unregulated "ingredient" could compromise the integrity of other goods--including tires?
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I suffer the same frustration, Action, but does Michelin make a competing tire in the size and load capacity to replace the 225/75 R15 and 2540 lbs capacity without changing to 16 inch rims?

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China may not be where you want your parts made, however it is a price sensitive market out there. And when the consumer votes with their dollar to buy cheaper, vendors are wondering where their sales went when the buyer goes to the competition. If the competitor gets their product from China and vendor has to make a decision to compete with the buyer. Either get out of that specific market, sell lesser quanities and deal with the objections of buyers over why price is so high, or join the others and build the product cheaper. (IE in China in this case)

One or two individuals won't make a difference. Tire dealers and manufacturers sell hundreds of tires daily.

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I only suggest it because I don't think they are built in China. And they will be priced more.

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Hi, in my age group, we experienced the worst crap ever. [MADE IN JAPAN] But boy has that changed through out the years. Now everyone wants Japanese quality. Will the Chinese do the same? Who knows. But while makeing products elsewhere, cost, maybe 1/10th the price of made in USA, we continue to pay the same price. Conclusion: Corporate greed!
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i agree that something needs to be done, but what? we, as consumers want (and in most cases need) the best value we can get for our dollars. so the cost is high up on our list. then add to that the fact that (has been mentioned in this thread) it is next to impossible to find stuff made in the USA, and what other choice do we have. i think all of us would prefer to buy American, but we don't have that option in many cases. i wish i thought there was an easy answer, but i'm afraid we have let this get so far out of control that we may never be able to get it back. i certainly don't mean to be the profit of doom, i hope more than anything i'm wrong. please any suggestions?
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Hi, in my age group, we experienced the worst crap ever. [MADE IN JAPAN] But boy has that changed through out the years. Now everyone wants Japanese quality. Will the Chinese do the same? Who knows. But while makeing products elsewhere, cost, maybe 1/10th the price of made in USA, we continue to pay the same price. Conclusion: Corporate greed!
I remember when the first Japanese cars were arriving. It was said that if you scratch the paint it would reveal a Budwieser label underneath. Like China today it was our steel that Japan used to manufacture their products. And yes we bought them and the quality improved. But for me quality Chinese products aren't here yet. Tires are too important to chance.

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i agree that something needs to be done, but what? we, as consumers want (and in most cases need) the best value we can get for our dollars. so the cost is high up on our list. then add to that the fact that (has been mentioned in this thread) it is next to impossible to find stuff made in the USA, and what other choice do we have. i think all of us would prefer to buy American, but we don't have that option in many cases. i wish i thought there was an easy answer, but i'm afraid we have let this get so far out of control that we may never be able to get it back. i certainly don't mean to be the profit of doom, i hope more than anything i'm wrong. please any suggestions?
I agree it maybe too late. I always shop for the best VALUE not the best price, but unfortunately the apparent human trait of greed has overruled everything else and at any cost. The fallout cometh. I shake my head in amazement everyday at the news reports of yet someone else getting scammed out of money...why? GREED Like some other posters I much prefer to buy American and will at every opportunity, but even that is no longer a guarantee of quality, many American manufacturers have cut quality in an attempt to remain competitive with the Walmart mentality crowd. As far as tires, I haven't started looking yet and when I do I probably won't like my choices...

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