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Old 11-25-2008, 01:00 PM   #1
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Changed air in tires for nitrogen?

I have a question on this topic. I bought new tires on my SUV (not my tow vehicle) and they filled them with Nitrogen if I wanted at no extra charge. True to what they told me, they maintain constant pressure in extreme heat and cold.
I was thinking of taking the tow vehicle in and paying to have those tires filled with nitrogen and the Airstream in the spring when I take it out of storage. Has anyone converted their Airstream tires to nitrogen.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:36 PM   #2
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I have a question on this topic. I bought new tires on my SUV (not my tow vehicle) and they filled them with Nitrogen if I wanted at no extra charge. True to what they told me, they maintain constant pressure in extreme heat and cold.
I was thinking of taking the tow vehicle in and paying to have those tires filled with nitrogen and the Airstream in the spring when I take it out of storage. Has anyone converted their Airstream tires to nitrogen.
We are working on that program for our customers.

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Old 11-25-2008, 02:16 PM   #3
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What is the cost to convert tires to Nitrogen, and are there any downsides to making this change?

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Old 11-25-2008, 02:21 PM   #4
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I posted this without searching and it's clear that this has been discussed before. So you may want to check out.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...gen-18625.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...res-32063.html
RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Tech Issues: Nitrogen in your tires
or even a poll on the subject
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ires-4975.html
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:25 PM   #5
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One more...looks like it's about $10 a tire

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...gas-37684.html
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One more...looks like it's about $10 a tire

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...gas-37684.html
I looked into that program and, was told it would be around 15$ or possibly 20$ per tire.
10$..if that's the price, is an reasonable price..
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:30 PM   #7
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I changed the air to nitrogen in my superduty.

Nitrogen has bigger molecules and rubber is pouris so they maintain pressure with less maint. I was told smoother ride, better MPG ect. I have noticed none of the above. Only consistant tire pressure. Some people argue flammable?? So is gas. Road Race cars have used Nitrogen for years.

I wont hurt anything in the trailer tires, is what I am told.

Then you will get those green caps for them to.
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:35 PM   #8
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Nitrogen is an inert gas, and comprises roughly 80% of our atmosphere. If you think about it, if the only reason to fill with Nitrogen is because the atoms are bigger, why not keep filling with air? Using that theory, after a few refills the tires will be completely filled with nitrogen anyway.
The big advantage to nitrogen, it is dry. It is the moisture in the air that does most of the expanding.
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I'm with Terry on this one. Theoretically, if you over-fill your tires 20%, the O2/CO2/CO components of air will all leak out leaving you 100% nitrogen at the proper psi fill level!

The truth is that as tires age, schrader valves leak. The tire beads leak. Rims leak. Nitrogen does nothing for those conditions. I check my tires occasionally, and although occasionally one may be down a little, they're <never> low enough to cause a problem.

I think it's mostly one of those "great ideas" that increases the bottom line for tire stores. If you're going to do something for your tires that will save you a ton of money, invest in balancing powder for your tow vehicle tires. The ride is awesome, you never have to pay to have your tires balanced again and you'll be amazed at how even your tire wear is. I think it was about $6/tire for the six Michelins on the Born Free moho.

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These folks say that powder is now out of style and one should use glass beads.

Tire Balancing Products

They make an interesting pitch but who knows?
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These folks say that powder is now out of style and one should use glass beads.

Tire Balancing Products

They make an interesting pitch but who knows?
Yeah... who knows... I think that the powder we used was, in fact, Teflon coated glass beads... but it still looks like powder to me!

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Their pitch is that powder clumps together and glass beads do not. The charts were interesting in that they gave a recommended amount depending on the tire size and application.

I'm not sure I'd want to spend a Saturday trying to put 6 oz of glass beads in the tire valve stem, however.
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My air compressor delivers a nice 78% nitrogen blend. Think I will keep using it.
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Old 11-25-2008, 05:51 PM   #14
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I did this on my old truck

OK all engineers out there (boy they think odd, ask me I have a daughter studying to be one) tell us why this is a waste of money. I told an engineer that I did this and he (John) almost said I was nuts doing so (in so many words). With my new truck I'm not doing it, just to keeping from wasting the money the engineer thought I was wasting!

The discussion was WAY over my head BUT I trust him so I'm not doing this again.

So Engineers (John) tell them why..............
(Again I trust him, just won't adopt his dog)
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I would like to add. I would not reccomend filling tires from an aircompressor that does not have a good air dryer on it, esspecially when filling alluminum rims. The moisture created from hot cylinders compressing air then storing in a tank then pumping humid compressed air into you tires is sure to cause the corrossion on the bead which causes flat or low tires on the first cold day, or when significant temp change occurs.

PS Pardon my spelling those are some big words
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I have not needed to add pressure for about 21 months using nitrogen. You can check out the past links. I am a believer in spite of the sarcastic nay sayers
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My air compressor delivers a nice 78% nitrogen blend. Think I will keep using it.
YEP

IMHO waste of money.... unless you Stream at Indy.
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I have not needed to add pressure for about 21 months using nitrogen. You can check out the past links. I am a believer in spite of the sarcastic nay sayers
Hey I'm not sarcastic I used Nitro in the past but was told I was nuts doing so!

I would go back to it but...........................
the Engineers.......................... they scare me!

and if the sarcastic remark wasn't directed at me ( the X Nitro user) then I must be paranoid and apologize for this responce
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The first thing on my list when a hurricane warning is announced is to make about [3] trips to the gas station to fill my air tank and then to top off the trailer tires, and some other tires around the house. A pain, and a waste of time. If nitrogen-filled tires don't lose pressure -- and cut down on interior moisture -- then that is a gain. I would only need to alter the truck rear tires (up by 25-lbs) and a single fill of the air tank for the wheelbarrow, two dollies, etc. And then a fill and fuel on the way out of town.
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The first thing on my list when a hurricane warning is announced is to make about [3] trips to the gas station to fill my air tank and then to top off the trailer tires, and some other tires around the house. A pain, and a waste of time. If nitrogen-filled tires don't lose pressure -- and cut down on interior moisture -- then that is a gain. I would only need to alter the truck rear tires (up by 25-lbs) and a single fill of the air tank for the wheelbarrow, two dollies, etc. And then a fill and fuel on the way out of town.
Or go to the nearest welding supply and get a tank of your own or 12v portable compressor
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