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Old 01-31-2012, 07:00 AM   #1
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I put on centramatics and took off all the balance from the tire. Is this what everyone does?. I am letting the centramatics do the work.
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I put on centramatics and took off all the balance from the tire. Is this what everyone does?. I am letting the centramatics do the work.

Just to be on the "safe" side I balanced ours, (road forced) when I installed the CM's.

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The wheel weights are unnecessary if using the CM's. Read on their site, and on older threads on this forum.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:17 AM   #4
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I put on centramatics and took off all the balance from the tire. Is this what everyone does?. I am letting the centramatics do the work.
I decided to leave the wheel weights on. I believe I recall the centramatic web site suggested this.

The theory being that the centramatic can only compensate a given amount. So, if the mass of the tire and wheel is balanced by the wheel weights, the more effect the centramatic can apply to completely balance the entire assembly.

Quite possibly splitting hairs, but sounds reasonable to me.


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I've had the Centramatics since 2004 and I remember reading something to the effect that the CM's can only correctly balance if the amount of weight needed for proper balance is less than the weight of the beads inside the CM. If your tires are nearly perfect and require very little weight to correct inbalance then you're good to go, otherwise balance the tires and let the CM's correct any slight inbalance which may occur as the tires wear.
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From Centramatics web site. Centramatic

"Should the tires/wheels be pre-balanced?
In most cases, pre-balancing is not required. However, if a vibration still exists after installation, a computer balance of the problem position can indicate a mis-mounted or defective tire, bent wheel or other "out of round" condition, which balancing alone cannot correct. Wheel bearings should also be checked and defective parts replaced."



Seems to me it can only help if you get the tires balanced.
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I balance mine, for the reasons stated above. Since my balance was done w/o the TPMS sensors on, I didn't want the out of balance caused by the sensors to exceed the amount of balance capability of the CMs.
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thanks all. I think I will have them balanced and then the tpms will be in balance after.
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What a timely thread for me. Hope mine show up in the mail today!
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Just to be on the "safe" side I balanced ours, (road forced) when I installed the CM's.

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Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders.

I'd probably do the same thing.
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Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders.

Criteria......bulge above=suspenders.. Bulge below=not so much.

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The Road Force balance is something a bit different. Because of variations in the sidewalls and the tread area, tire carcases have differences in "stiffness" at points around the circumference of the tire. As tires roll, these stiff areas make the tire feel out of round and/or out of balance even though the tire may be perfectly round. On a non-Road Force balance machine the tires will appear be perfectly balanced but the tires will ride like they are egg shaped. The Road Force balance attempts to correct this. Variations of 25 pounds or more of Road Force variation are common. For what it's worth, I've read that the Michelin LTX M/S are one of the best tires when it comes to variations in Road Force with most tires having a variance of less than 5 lbs. per tire.
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B. Thompson,
Thanks for that info!
Interesting stuff.
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Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders.

I'd probably do the same thing.
Only more stylish.
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