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Old 06-01-2007, 11:33 AM   #15
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I will go with the little beads when I replace my tires. It looks to be just as efficent, but at a fraction of the cost. My trailer does not have lug nuts, it has lug bolts. The Centramatics would be very difficult to install with that configuration.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:39 AM   #16
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azflycaster,
you may want to install some wheel studs instead of the lug bolts to make mounting the tire easier.
I thought about the balancing beads but if you have a flat tire out on the road somewhere you will need to replace the beads. The centramatics are always there.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:41 AM   #17
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you may want to install some wheel studs instead of the lug bolts to make mounting the tire easier.
I thought about the balancing beads but if you have a flat tire out on the road somewhere you will need to replace the beads. The centramatics are always there.
If I had a flat the centramatics would not work either, I do not carry a spare
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:58 PM   #18
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Richard, I wish I had your luck. I can't imagine traveling without a spare.

I'm thinking about the beads as well.

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Old 06-01-2007, 01:01 PM   #19
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Thanks for the info Bob.
I assume these are installed at a tire store by breaking the bead on one side and pouring them in. Or am I missing something?
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No you just feed them thru the air valve
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You do not have to break the tire down. Just let the air out and remove the valve core, pore them in.
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The instruction have you remove the tire from the trailer, but I would think if you ramped up the tire, you could do it in place....
I took them off so the valve was in a near verticle position, it takes a few minutes for them to work their way in.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:07 PM   #21
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Both of these systems assume that the tire is out of balance along it's center line. It is not uncommon for tires to be out of balance more on one side than another. How is this addressed?
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I think, not 100% sure, they will work their way to where they are needed inside-center-outside.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:35 PM   #23
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Beads vs. Centramtics

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I thought about the balancing beads but if you have a flat tire out on the road somewhere you will need to replace the beads. The centramatics are always there.
If you are replacing the tire, couldn't you recover the beads from the old tire or carry an extra bag of beads to put in the new one? If you carry a spare you could buy enough beads for the spare. This would still be way cheeper then the Centramatics. (IMHO) Not restricting airflow to the brakes is a BIG PLUS with the beads. "Mac"
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:35 PM   #24
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How do you know how many beads to put in? Can you overfill with the beads?
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How do you know how many beads to put in? Can you overfill with the beads?
If you use enough beeds you don't need any air.

Really, the site has a chart that shows how many ounces to put in a tire listed by tire size. A P225/75 R15 tire requires 3 oz. which sells for $6 per tire.
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If you use enough beeds you don't need any air.

Really, the site has a chart that shows how many ounces to put in a tire listed by tire size. A P225/75 R15 tire requires 3 oz. which sells for $6 per tire.
Three ounces will work no matter how out of balance you are?

Just trying to understand.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:59 PM   #27
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When using beads or Centramatic Balancers, I would think you would want to balance traditionally, and then use the beads or balancers to fine tune the setup.....why make them try to overcome a severe out of balance problem?...what if the balance problem was more severe than you had capacity to overcome with 3 oz of beads or whatever the Centramatics can compensate for???
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Three ounces will work no matter how out of balance you are?

Just trying to understand.
Hi, "Three ounces will work no matter how out of balance you are?" I don't think so; Most decent tires and wheels take from nothing [very rare] to as high as six ounces to balance. [bad ones take even more] So three ounces would at best be a happy medium. And don't forget the main reason we are talking about this is because Airstream / Dexter / Henschen don't balance the damn drums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can balance the wheels, but if the drums are out of balance, it's just a waste of time, effort, and money. What were they thinking? Since it is illeagle to ride inside of you trailer, you won't feel the vibrations, therefore it's OK for your trailer to shake it's self apart on the freeway. At this time my vote goes for the Centramatics. I don't believe any tire was made to have foreign objects flying around inside of them. I'm curious what Goodyear and other tire manufacturers would have to say about these beads. This is my opinion at this time and subject to change, or remain the same, at any time.
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