Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-08-2004, 09:17 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
TDOW's Avatar
 
1966 22' Safari
Madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 83
Caravel Tires

Need to replace our tires on the '67 Caravel. What brand and size should we consider? Thanks and can't wait to hit the road.

TDOW
__________________

__________________
TDOW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 09:32 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
RivetED's Avatar
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
North Central , USA
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 661
Goodyear 'Marathon's' have been my choice for the past 3 yrs. That's what A/S put on our '04.
__________________

__________________
RivetED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
Moderator Emeritus
 
overlander64's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,396
Images: 183
Send a message via Yahoo to overlander64
Caravel Tires

Greetings TDOW!

Welcome to the Forums!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDOW
Need to replace our tires on the '67 Caravel. What brand and size should we consider? Thanks and can't wait to hit the road.

TDOW
I have run Good Year Marathons on both my Airstream Overlander ('64) and Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre ('78) for more than nine years - - they were first on my list of new parts following the purchase of each trailer (Overlander - 1995, and Minuet - 2002). The tires have been trouble-free, and have outperformed everyone of my expectations. With the assistance of my long-time Good Year dealer, I chose 225 75 R 15 ST Load Range D for the Overlander (6,100 lbs. GVW) and 205 75 R 15 Load Range C for the Minuet 6.0 Metre (3,250 lbs. GVW). I have replaced the tires at the beginning of the fifth season on each coach regardless of mileage covered - - I have never had the tread wear out on any trailer tire on my Airstreams.

Good luck with your tire selection!

Kevin
__________________
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
overlander64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 09:50 AM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
Zed2's Avatar
 
1993 21' Sovereign
Plano , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 121
Here is a great discussion on the topic;

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=10241
__________________
Zed2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 01:16 PM   #5
3 Rivet Member
 
Midamrail's Avatar
 
1975 Argosy 26
Villa Ridge , Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: 1964 24' Tradewind
Posts: 157
Images: 19
We very much wanted the Marathons on our '64 Tradewind single axle as they are outstanding tires, but they would not fit in the wheelwell. We ended up settling on Yokohama 7.00x15 radials (we were surprised to find that size in a radial) in a load range D.
__________________
Both Alex, my Argosy, and I are kids from Versailles, Ohio!
Midamrail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 01:46 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 11,793
Images: 108
We too have the Goodyear Marathons.

No problem fitting our '64 single axle wheelwells Molly...wonder what gives? Have to compare notes in a couple weeks

Shari
__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | WBCCI DenCO Unit | Sisters on the Fly | Tin Can Tourists
BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 05:21 PM   #7
2 Rivet Member
 
TDOW's Avatar
 
1966 22' Safari
Madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 83
Thanks for responding to my questions. I found a set of 7:75/15 bias plys at Farm and Fleet today. Brand name is Nankgang. They have carried them for over 16 years at this store. Load rating is 1590, C rating. Sale price $56.95. We may give these a try.

Hitch ball heigh, according to the Airstream owners mannual is 20" from top of ball to level ground. We're about an inch short. Do they make spacers?
__________________
TDOW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 05:31 PM   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
overlander64's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,396
Images: 183
Send a message via Yahoo to overlander64
Caravel Tires

Greetings TDOW!

In reading Ben and Molly's post as well as Shari's, it occurred to me that the problem encountered by Ben and Molly isn't all that uncommon - - especially on single-axle Vintage era Airstreams. The item below is quoted from the VAC websit FAQs:

Quote:
Q: I'm not sure of what size tire to get for my trailer, as it seems the original sized tires are not readily available. What should I do?
A: Best bet is to get the trailer to a dealer, provide them with as much information as you can, and let them match, mount and then install the tires. That way if there is an issue, they are responsible for making the tire fit. Generally, the tire used on the older trailers were 7.00 x 15 LT (Light Truck) bias ply tires of the era. Some exceptions are the small 15 to 18 foot trailers, which used a 6.70 x 15 LT tire, as were some early tandem axle trailers.
ST type (special trailer) tires weren't available back then - the same with radial tires. The ST has a stiffer sidewall than a passenger car radial and has UV inhibitors in it - not really an issue if you use the trailer at least 6 times a year to release the friction activated inhibitors, and protect the tires from the sun while in storage. Radials were used, usually the 225SR15 size once they came out in the '70's. You can retrofit radials in some cases where clearance is not an issue, but it is recommended to use the ST type, as the average radial sidewall flexes too much when used on a trailer.
In general, if this is the first set of replacement tires that you have purchased for your coach, it is generally a good idea to take the coach to the tire dealer (if at all possible) and allow him/her to take the necessary measurements and order the correct size tire in a a load range suitable for your coach. The logic behind this process is as stated above, that the dealer then assumes responsibility for the proper fit of the tire - - especially important if the tire must be special ordered. I followed this process with the first set of tires that I purchased for both the '64 Overlander and the '78 Minuet. The tight clearance issues seem to be more prevalent with the single-axle coaches, but there have been reports of similar issues with larger tandem-axle coaches as well - - and in some cases in reports that I have read, the clearance on one side of the coach can be noticeably tighter than on the opposite side.

Good luck with your tire purchase!

Kevin
__________________
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
overlander64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 05:48 PM   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
overlander64's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,396
Images: 183
Send a message via Yahoo to overlander64
Caravel Tires

Greetings TDOW!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDOW
Thanks for responding to my questions. I found a set of 7:75/15 bias plys at Farm and Fleet today. Brand name is Nankgang. They have carried them for over 16 years at this store. Load rating is 1590, C rating. Sale price $56.95. We may give these a try.

Hitch ball heigh, according to the Airstream owners mannual is 20" from top of ball to level ground. We're about an inch short. Do they make spacers?
I can't help you much with the tires from Farm and Fleet. I have been a Farm and Fleet customer for years but haven't purchased any tires from them. My only concern would be whether the tires mentioned have adequate capacity for your coach - - the Airstream weights and measures page lists the '67 Caravel Empty Weight of 2,450 pounds - - with options, full potable water and LP tanks, and personal possession I would make a guess that the Gross Weight would approach (if not slightly exceed) 3,500 pounds.

Setting up your hitch shouldn't prove too difficult. What you will need is an adjustable ball mount for your receiver. The drawbar portion is available with a number of drops or rises - - the typical maximum is either a 12" drop or rise. If your ball mount happens to be a welded unit, you may have to do a little shopping to find a welder with hitch fabrication experience who will be willing to adjust the ball mount to match your current towing setup - - it may prove to be less hassle to purchase an adjustable ball mount in the long-run as it seems to be getting more difficult every day to find a welder to do any kind of hitch fabrication (and this will make future tow vehicle changes easier).

There is another issue to consider as well. Since your coach has Henschen Dura Torque axles, they may have settled enough to change the actual "level" hitch height of the trailer. To check this, you can park the coach on level ground then level the coach and check its actual hitch height - - the results may surprise you. This measurement helped to clarify just how much my Minuet's axle had settled - - the hitch height was almost 1.75" lower than the specifications identified - - a new axle brought the height up more than 2".

Good luck with your hitch adjustment and tire selection!

Kevin
__________________
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
overlander64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 07:39 PM   #10
Moderator
 
Stefrobrts's Avatar

 
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,906
Images: 50
Blog Entries: 1
My Caravel, fully loaded, weighs in at about 2800#, so it sounds like those tires might do the trick. I don't know how much extra capacity it is recommended you have. Is there anyplace nearby where you could weigh it and find out for sure what your weighs?

Also, I believe my hitch ball height is 19" on the 68 Caravel. I figure, whatever gets it sitting level. You can always adjust it later if it's wrong.
__________________
Stephanie




Stefrobrts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2004, 09:31 PM   #11
Moderator Emeritus
 
Pick's Avatar
 
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs , Florida
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,310
Images: 36
Send a message via AIM to Pick
My Load Range D 7.00 X 15 brand X tires seem to get quite warm on my Airstream, that weighs about 6500#. In contrast, my flat bed equipment trailer with the load range D Marathons run cool with over 9000 # on the tandems. I may swap the Marathons over to the A/S, but they are on the tacky white spoked wheels.
__________________

__________________
ARS WA8ZYT
2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
Propane Powered Honda EU2000i
Lots of Hot Sauce!
Air # 283
WBCCI 1350
Pick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
caravel


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Caravel Tires Over59 1966-68 Caravel 21 01-24-2011 10:26 AM
Tires good or bad? 72 Excella500 Tires 14 06-12-2004 04:16 PM
65 Caravel / Globetrotter Tires robandzoe Tires 6 05-06-2004 10:21 AM
Questions about trailer tires... cactushead Tires 2 10-22-2003 06:58 PM
tires? trailer will sit after move goodgrey Tires 4 12-06-2002 03:10 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.