Blown Tire

[GMFL]

Originally Posted by urnmor

Put the new Goodyears on today and it was a good thing as two of the other tires had broken belts.

Good save. Keep us posted on how you like the Goodyear’s. I have the Michelin defender m/s 15” tires and they have been great for me on my 23D

[Tireman9]

Originally Posted by urnmor

I have been asked the question if i have a TPMS. I do however I did not like it as I always had problems using it. So I topped using it shortly after I purchased it.

I don't understand what "problems" you had.

I write a blog on RV Tire Safety. See my profile
I have written on how I set my TPMS pressure. Been running TPMS on my RV since 2008 and no problems with the system.

[james.mileur]

https://jalopnik.com/how-goodyear-hi...his-1822200424

"The recalled defective Firestone tires had an average tread separation claim of 270.6 ppm, records show. If only half of Goodyear’s 730 property damage and injury claims from the G159 happened because of tread separations,*Kurtz wrote, “the G159 claim rate equals 2,270 ppm.” That’s about ten times worse than the Firestone tires NHTSA deemed defective, and,*as one filing put it, “Such failure rates are unheard of for consumer products.”

Wonder what other tires GY has suppressed data from the NTSB?

[CapriRacer]

Originally Posted by james.mileur

https://jalopnik.com/how-goodyear-hi...his-1822200424

"The recalled defective Firestone tires had an average tread separation claim of 270.6 ppm, records show. If only half of Goodyear’s 730 property damage and injury claims from the G159 happened because of tread separations,*Kurtz wrote, “the G159 claim rate equals 2,270 ppm.” That’s about ten times worse than the Firestone tires NHTSA deemed defective, and,*as one filing put it, “Such failure rates are unheard of for consumer products.”

Wonder what other tires GY has suppressed data from the NTSB?

Ah ..... Mmmmm ....... Not exactly.

I did the math and the rate of failure for the Firestones doesn't line up with what I know. In fact, the rate quoted for the Goodyears is more like what I remember - and those Goodyears are from the same time period, so I think some things are being misstated (which should be no surprise since this is from a plaintiff's attorney!)

[Tireman9]

Originally Posted by james.mileur

https://jalopnik.com/how-goodyear-hi...his-1822200424

"The recalled defective Firestone tires had an average tread separation claim of 270.6 ppm, records show. If only half of Goodyear’s 730 property damage and injury claims from the G159 happened because of tread separations,*Kurtz wrote, “the G159 claim rate equals 2,270 ppm.” That’s about ten times worse than the Firestone tires NHTSA deemed defective, and,*as one filing put it, “Such failure rates are unheard of for consumer products.”

Wonder what other tires GY has suppressed data from the NTSB?

I see a lot of "lawyer speak" of claims of "defective" tires but I do not find any statement of what the defect was. Simply failing is not evidence of a defect. Where is the evidence of proper loading or proper inflation? It is well documented that a majority of RVs have a tire or axle overload. Also, DOT has data showing that a significant portion of tires on the road are significantly underinflated even when you measure the hot inflation.

If having a high failure rate is considered proof of something being defective then it can easily be argued that the owners of RVs are "defective" in their maintenance of the tires.

If you buy a piece of rope that is rated for 500# but fails if you load it to 700#, is the rope defective?
If you have a "1,000 Lb test" chain that is kinked and you weld the damaged links but the chain later fails at 1,000#, is the chain "defective"?

IMO Jalopnic sounds like a troll. I can't find any technical posts from the author of the Goodyear article. I tend to believe it reads more like a law firm press release than an in-depth fact-based investigative article.

[james.mileur]

Thx for the studied response to provide some other perspective on the press release. Thought you might be able to help. I should have posted as a question for validity, vice assume the worst.

[Tireman9]

A post like the one on Goodyear G159 may be the "truth" but is it the "Whole Truth and nothing but the truth?

[RamRider]

We also had a failure - GYM's last week on our return trip and replaced them the next day with GYE's. 30 minutes before the failure we stopped for lunch and fuel, the tires were all fully inflated and demonstrating no problems. 30 miles later the right front tire (curbside) separated and caused damage to our Airstream. When the old tires were removed, the left rear tire was also separated but fully inflated.
Interesting observation at the time of removal the left tire rear looked like it had extensive wear on the edges (similar to out of alignment on vehicle tires) - however there was no actual tire wear as the visual condition was a result of the tire failing and beginning to bulge around the center. This is probably a condition to watch for when checking tires during a travels.

[Tireman9]

Originally Posted by RamRider

We also had a failure - GYM's last week on our return trip and replaced them the next day with GYE's. 30 minutes before the failure we stopped for lunch and fuel, the tires were all fully inflated and demonstrating no problems. 30 miles later the right front tire (curbside) separated and caused damage to our Airstream. When the old tires were removed, the left rear tire was also separated but fully inflated.
Interesting observation at the time of removal the left tire rear looked like it had extensive wear on the edges (similar to out of alignment on vehicle tires) - however there was no actual tire wear as the visual condition was a result of the tire failing and beginning to bulge around the center. This is probably a condition to watch for when checking tires during a travels.

Yes irregular or uneven wear can manytimes be a symptom of an impending separation. These failurs do not occur over a span of 50 miles (as can happen with a loss of air) but take many hndreds to thousands of miles.

This is something to look for when you do your annual (or 5,000 mile) "Free Spin" inspection as outlined in my RV Tire blog. IMO if all trailer owners followed this suggestion there might be a 80% drop in surprise tire failures.

[r carl]

Originally Posted by CapriRacer

Allow me to expand on this.

A tire can get punctured and deflate in seconds - and even if you notice it the moment it happens, the tire can be destroyed by the time you can stop, damaging its surroundings along the way.

Plus, puncturing objects might not be noticed at speed. I had a friend who ran over a 6" long open end wrench and the only reason he knew about it was the vehicle felt funny. Discovered the object embedded in the tire when he stopped.

Must be magnet rubber in ST tires.