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10-21-2014, 06:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 30' International
Ferndale
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 101
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Anyone using Carlyle tires?
In checking out Discount Tires I noticed Carlyle tires with a higher speed rating than the Marathons and a higher load rating. Has anyone used these. I would appreciate feedback! Thanks
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10-21-2014, 06:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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If you have 15" rims many use the Michelin 235/75x15 XL tires. What is the allowable gross weight of your trailer. My Classic 25fb is 8000lbs.
Sorry, no personal experience with Carlyle. I've read good and bad about them on this forum. If you do get tires from Discount Tire make sure you monitor the techs. They have a habit of putting floor jacks under axles vs the jack points on a trailer.
Kelvin
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10-21-2014, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 31' Classic
Currently Looking...
Monroe
, Iowa
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverdrifter
In checking out Discount Tires I noticed Carlyle tires with a higher speed rating than the Marathons and a higher load rating. Has anyone used these. I would appreciate feedback! Thanks
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What is the load range, and how many plys are these tires?
I have 10 ply Maxxis tires that have higher load and speed ratings. They cost 3 times as much tho.
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10-21-2014, 06:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: May 2009
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My only experience with Carlisle tires (New. when I purchased my AS in '09), not good. Thread separation (blowout/damage). Sent tire to Carlisle with their return label, UPS. Upon their inspection, they sent me a check for all 4 tires to be replaced. I assume they found something wrong. No comment! I suffered with the repair to the banana wrap and wheel well trim.
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10-21-2014, 07:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverdrifter
In checking out Discount Tires I noticed Carlyle tires with a higher speed rating than the Marathons and a higher load rating. Has anyone used these. I would appreciate feedback! Thanks
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Probably should check to see if its a type error.
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10-21-2014, 08:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
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I purchased four new Carlisle when I started referbing my 1976. Probably have less then 2500 miles on them. About a month ago I traveled the Blue Ridge Parkway and one of the treads separated without loss of pressure. I assumed it was a fluke. Then two weeks ago in South Georgia lost another tread with no pressure loss. Both did damage to the wheel well and banana wrap. Not willing to go through this again. Bought new 16 inch aluminum rims and 225/75/16 Michelin . Expensive but now I can stop worrying. If you look under tires subgroup on this forum "spent all day fixing wheel well"there are several post with good tire information.
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1976 31 foot Sovereign
2011 GMC 2500HD Denali
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10-21-2014, 09:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 31' Classic
lubbock
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I put 4 new Carlyle "E" on my trailer as soon as I got it home. Guy at Discount said that they were not getting the support from Maxxis and they were pushing Carlyle at that time. I ve had them since march of 2013. No issues so far.
I had 2 sets of Maxxis on the last trailer.
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10-21-2014, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hi from AZ. . .As opposed to throwing away a perfectly good set of 15" alloys, I installed a set of Carlisle trailer tires (Radial Trail RH) on my AS. They were $110 each & I only have 100 miles on them so far. I'll be sure to post my experience with as we go. We're headed to Southern New Mexico next week,.(but, remember, I had 2 sets of GYM's on two trailers without a single problem) just sayin. regards, Craig
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10-21-2014, 09:51 PM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamblinManGa
Hi from AZ. . .As opposed to throwing away a perfectly good set of 15" alloys, I installed a set of Carlisle trailer tires (Radial Trail RH) on my AS. They were $110 each & I only have 100 miles on them so far. I'll be sure to post my experience with as we go. We're headed to Southern New Mexico next week,.(but, remember, I had 2 sets of GYM's on two trailers without a single problem) just sayin. regards, Craig
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Sometime through this winter I will be buying 6 new tires for my Avion 34W. I'll be interested to see all comments in this thread. I'm leaning towards sticking with the GYM load range D's that are on the trailer already, but I'm open to good real-world-experience suggestions. I'm not interested at all in buying 6 new alloy rims just to go up to 16" tires.
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10-21-2014, 10:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 30' International
Ferndale
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
If you have 15" rims many use the Michelin 235/75x15 XL tires. What is the allowable gross weight of your trailer. My Classic 25fb is 8000lbs.
Sorry, no personal experience with Carlyle. I've read good and bad about them on this forum. If you do get tires from Discount Tire make sure you monitor the techs. They have a habit of putting floor jacks under axles vs the jack points on a trailer.
Kelvin
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My international Serenity 30' allowable gross weight is 8800 lbs. the Michelins have a max load just under 2000 per wheel so not quite enough. I think I need a load range E for this trailer.
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10-21-2014, 10:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 30' International
Ferndale
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 101
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The Maxxis 225/75/15 can carry enough weight for the trailer depending on inflation pressure but rated at a max speed of 65 mph. While I don't stay above this for sustained periods of time I do occasionally and would feel better with a higher speed rated tire
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10-21-2014, 10:30 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulnGina
Sometime through this winter I will be buying 6 new tires for my Avion 34W. I'll be interested to see all comments in this thread. I'm leaning towards sticking with the GYM load range D's that are on the trailer already, but I'm open to good real-world-experience suggestions. I'm not interested at all in buying 6 new alloy rims just to go up to 16" tires.
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Yokohama ry215 at 2040-lbs per tire a better choice on a tridem if you keep it at or under 10k lbs.
Many better choices than most any ST tire.
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10-21-2014, 11:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1999 25' Safari
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 57
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My experience with Carlyle tires has been excellent. I had never heard of them, but they came with my first AS, a 76 Tradewind. Although used, I kept them for 4 yrs and 3,000 miles until I sold it and purchased a '99 Safari. I put new Carlyles on the Safari and have driven approximately 15,000 with not even a flat tire. Perhaps I've been lucky but so far they have been great.
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10-22-2014, 09:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Oracle
, Arizona
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10-22-2014, 09:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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It has been my observation that tire shops ALWAYS recommend the brand of tires they have in stock, and the tires they have in stock are ALWAYS the best available.
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10-22-2014, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
It has been my observation that tire shops ALWAYS recommend the brand of tires they have in stock, and the tires they have in stock are ALWAYS the best available. :roll eyes:
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I would second that opinion.
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10-22-2014, 10:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 30' International
Ferndale
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 101
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my Serenity 30' has a total allowable weight of 8800 lbs dry weight around 6500. So with the Michelin 15" LTX tires it looks like if I don't load the trailer to the max (which is unlikely any way) I should be OK I don't want to go the 16" wheel route. Does this sound reasonable?
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10-22-2014, 10:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
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One thing you need to look at is the gross axle rating. The tires have to be rated to carry that weight, at least in my state. The P235 XL Michelins de-rate for trailer use to approximately 1985 lbs. So your axles need to be rated a bit less than 4000 lbs each.
My rig has a listed gross wt of 6800 lbs and a gross axle rating of 3200 each. When loaded and hitched the total weight on the axles is 5600 -5800.
A pass through the CAT scales when hitched costs $10 bucks, takes not much time, and provides a lot of peace of mind on loading.
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10-22-2014, 11:34 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahab
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I hope your luck holds out.
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10-22-2014, 11:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
2016 23' International
Fernandina Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 586
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Had Discount Tire put a new set of Carlisle radial trail RH tires on my 2008 Safari 23 this past summer and drove across the country (>3000 miles) in the heat of the summer and through several construction zones along the way. They performed very well and kept their air pressure well. I maintain my tires to spec and they seem to hold up well. No complaints.
Discount Tire was very helpful and had a special bay that I could back up to. I went over the jack position and torquing specs with the tech before he got started. Great service. The tires were my choice having researched many brands. I have used Americas Tire/Discount Tire for my auto tires for decades now and am very happy with their service.
Full disclosure. I still had the GYMs on my trailer and after 7 years, the sidewalls were getting pretty cracked up, but I never had a blowout.
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