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Old 07-24-2013, 07:29 AM   #57
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There are several folks on the Airstream forum with single axle trailers. These single axle rigs actually can carry more weight per wheel than many of the twin axle Airstream trailers. You might PM (private message) Phoenix on the forum and discuss his experiences before and after going to 16" Michelins on his 19' Bambi and he is based in the Phoenix area and drives in the SouthWest summer heat.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:23 PM   #58
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So, after reviewing almost all of the threads. Once question:

2001 Safari 25FB- Funds not being an option. Extensive travel in South and Southwest.

What is the "ultimate" wheel/tire solution?


One can overkill easily. The best two tires in commercial service are the LR-E MICHELIN XPS and the BRIDGESTONE r250. BFG Commercial T/A and FIRESTONE Transforce are the cheaper brand alternatives from those two premium manufacturers, respectively.

MICHELIN LTX M/S series is not used in commercial service that I am familiar with (lacks closed shoulder design, which make them not my choice; but the LTX A/S is closed shoulder), yet it is used by plenty around here (including Mr. Thomson at CAN AM, and by A/S itself) to good report.

I would use the r250 as the default choice. The heavier the TT, the more important the tire choice especially the 28' and longer tandem axle models.

High tire loadings will make ones choice for one, IMO, as cheap tires (quality) will fail sooner.

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:52 PM   #59
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I could not see me retreading a Michelin XPS-Rib 16" load E tire or carrying the maximum tire loads. I liked the tread design on the MS/2 for driving in wet conditions to help prevent hydroplaning and it is all year rated, whereas the XPS-Rib is called a summer tire on the Michelin tire site.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:43 AM   #60
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My previous comments from another thread appear below.

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We have Michelin XPS Ribs (225/75x16). We towed our 19-foot Bambi in subfreezing weather (around +5 degrees F) in a blinding snowstorm; roadway was new packed snow over ice. I did not notice any unusual loss of traction. However, our tow vehicle didn't have much traction, either. At least our Bambi didn't try to come around our Tundra during a panic stop on the freeway when we swerved to avoid a car that spun out and came across our bow.

I wouldn't install these on our tow vehicle in the winter, but they worked fine on our Bambi in slick conditions.

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As I have previously stated, XPS Ribs are probably overkill for most Airstreams. However, our Bambi has 4,400 pounds riding on two tires (single axle), which is a higher tire load than most heavier Airstreams that have two or three axles.

I bought the more expensive (+$85/tire) XPS Ribs as insurance against blowouts, because three out of five ST tires had previously failed on our Bambi. While tire reviews were a big influence, the actual tire weight is what tipped the final buying decision.

The XPS Rib weighs 49 pounds per tire, versus 38 pounds for the Michelin LTX M/S2 (LT, LR-E); and the Rib's extra weight comes from steel sidewalls. (The XPS Rib and LTX M/S2 both have three steel belts.)

Note: For reference the "P" (passenger car) LTX M/S2 in size 235/75x15 weighs 31 pounds, has two steel belts, and is rated to carry about 700 pounds less per tire than those described above.
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I am renewing a '75 Sovereign 31' that needs new tires and I think after reading everyones' posts that I have decided to go with the Michelin LTX M/S2. The tires that are on the trailer now are "Safemark Super FMS 7.00-15LT". I'm out of my element when it comes to tires so I still have a few questions. What would the corresponding size of the new tires be and what is the difference between 225 and 235? For my trailer, is this a good choice? has anyone ever used Cooper tires?

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Old 07-26-2013, 10:03 AM   #62
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After following this and other threads it appears that unless one is willing to go with 16" wheels there are few options.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:04 AM   #63
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Hi from AZ. . . Whilst having my recalled Michelins replaced on my TV, tire guy said they carry Carlisle now that they've been re-engineered and are American made. My usual theory on salesmen (if their lips are moving. . . ) not withstanding, anybody heard about this ? Thanks, Craig
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:16 AM   #64
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Interesting. A number of choices. Trailer Tire
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:35 AM   #65
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Roadtoaster, not sure if anyone has yet answered one of your original questions but I have been doing research for tire replacement on my 1968 Safari 22' (single axle) which has a relatively new set of Carlisle 700 -15LT bias plys on them now. I was also considering the Pirelli's you referenced but read somewhere that they use a softer tire compound than the Michelins and may not be a good choice for trailer use. Not 100% certain but I can believe it and Michelins are great tires which I mostly use on my cars and trucks.

If I could move to 16" on mine I would but I don't think that will work and now am leaning towards Yokohama RY215 radials which is a good choice for my vintage I think once it comes back from the shop with it's new axle.
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Roadtoaster, not sure if anyone has yet answered one of your original questions but I have been doing research for tire replacement on my 1968 Safari 22' (single axle) which has a relatively new set of Carlisle 700 -15LT bias plys on them now. I was also considering the Pirelli's you referenced but read somewhere that they use a softer tire compound than the Michelins and may not be a good choice for trailer use. Not 100% certain but I can believe it and Michelins are great tires which I mostly use on my cars and trucks.

If I could move to 16" on mine I would but I don't think that will work and now am leaning towards Yokohama RY215 radials which is a good choice for my vintage I think once it comes back from the shop with it's new axle.
Welcome to the Forums and thanks for answering one of the questions. Can you provide more info on the softer compounds used in the Pirelli? My untrained mind equates a softer compound to better traction but shorter life.
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I found the thread where I saw this reference (see post #5 in the link below). Just not much out there on the Pirelli use for Airstream.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ari-99620.html
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #68
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I keep coming back to the point that Airstream is offering the Michelin LT 225/75R16E tires rated at 2,680 pounds at 80psi as a factory installed option on the Eddie Bauer using SenDel T03-66655T wheels rated 3,580 pound at 80 psi. These tires and wheels are at the front door of the factory store as you walk in and a sign says they will install that tire and wheel combination onto any current Airstream (probably more recent trailers with 15" wheels).

If I retrofit the same tires and wheels the factory installs to my trailer, then Airstream would have a very difficult time denying some warranty issue by claiming the wrong tires and wheels were on the trailer.

That was not necessarily the same fact issue on our 25FB where I installed five Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the factory rims.
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Those of you that are running the 16" LT, E rated tire, what pressure are you using?
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