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09-03-2014, 09:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
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All day fixing wheel well
Last week a Carlile tire with about 2500 miles came unglued on the way home. Catastrophic failure. I spent most of the day fixing wheel well and banana wrap. I ask the tire dealer what he recommended his only idea is to carry two spaires seems to me a comment on the tire industry. Just venting.
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Gene and Elaine Thomason
Ball Ground Ga.
1976 31 foot Sovereign
2011 GMC 2500HD Denali
6.6 Duramax Diesel
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09-03-2014, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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How long have you owed them? I have Carlie tires too, about three years old now..
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09-03-2014, 09:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Bummer! Our "fresh" tires also failed at near 5000. Not Carlisle.
Today we run LT Goodyears..15" wheels. May upgrade some day to 16".
Added tire pressure monitors. Very revealing to watch the temps and pressures. The good news is I should know as soon as I lose pressure or over temp/pressure.
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09-03-2014, 09:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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My local tire shop told me that Lt tires would develop flat spots since they are not designed to sit unused. Any problems so far? It sounded odd to me.
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09-04-2014, 06:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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No problems with flat spots or flats.
I leave all the weight of the 34 on them, but we try to camp a couple times a month.
It is not hard to raise and chock your trailer if that is a concern.
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Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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09-04-2014, 09:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 311
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Silver flames, they are about four years old. Much of that time was sitting while I rebuilt the AS. Hoped to have good tires as I retired and want to use more. The main concern I have three more. Some day I may break down and get aluminum 16inch rims and other tires. I guess I could be fair to the manufacture in it might be possible something like a bolt could have hit it going down the interstate, who knows. I guess it's the chalanges of camping.
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A husband is the biggest baby you will have and take the most adult supervision.
Gene and Elaine Thomason
Ball Ground Ga.
1976 31 foot Sovereign
2011 GMC 2500HD Denali
6.6 Duramax Diesel
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09-15-2014, 04:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 311
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No more tire troubles
Well, I've had it. Yesterday traveling to flordia I blew the second Carlile in 300 miles. All less then 2500. The first one I gave it the benefit of road hazard but with both not loosing any air pressure but a complete loss of tread should not happen. As soon as I get home they are all comming off. Both times did some undercarriage damage. Question for someone who knows:will a six lug zero offset sixteen inch x six inch aluminum wheel fit a 1976 sovereign. If so what size or kind of Michelin tire will be the best choice. About the last time I'm planning to do this.
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A husband is the biggest baby you will have and take the most adult supervision.
Gene and Elaine Thomason
Ball Ground Ga.
1976 31 foot Sovereign
2011 GMC 2500HD Denali
6.6 Duramax Diesel
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09-15-2014, 07:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Get a set of 235/75-XL15 car tires and never look back and never worry. The ST tires are designed for manure carts and hay wagons. Also they are speed rated to 65 MPH.
Perry
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09-15-2014, 07:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,270
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What was the load rating on them D or E?
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09-15-2014, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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They are good for 1985lbs per tire. You max trailer weight is probably 7000 lb and 700 of that is on the tongue. You have plenty of margin.
Perry
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09-15-2014, 08:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,270
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I'm starting to get nervous, I got a set of Carslie Tow max, load E that are about 4 years old.. I might have 1500 miles on them..
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09-15-2014, 08:31 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
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A 1969 Ambassador came original with LT 7.00x15 6 ply rating (today's equivalent is a Load Range C) The same for a 1976 Sovereign.
I use and recommend the Michelin LTX M/S2 P235/75/15XL 108T.
There are also LT235/75/15LRC LRD and LRE available if you don't want to use a P tire on a trailer.
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09-16-2014, 06:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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The car tires also give your trailer a smoother ride which is important if you are running the original axles which are most likely dead by now.
Perry
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09-16-2014, 06:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Got new Axels 2 years ago, still have not welded on the shock brackets yet. Otherwise a smooth ride.
I'm at 4 years on my tires, I think I need to start saving for a new set.
To the folks with LT tires, has anyone developed flat spots from the trailer sitting unused months at a time?
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09-16-2014, 06:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverflames
Got new Axels 2 years ago, still have not welded on the shock brackets yet. Otherwise a smooth ride.
I'm at 4 years on my tires, I think I need to start saving for a new set.
To the folks with LT tires, has anyone developed flat spots from the trailer sitting unused months at a time?
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Been running 16" LT's for a few years now, and no flat spots. However, I did have a 2 1/2 year old B F Goodrich LRE come apart this summer and do about $3K damage to the trailer. Have since switched to Michelins, and time will tell.
Seems to me with tires, this is no panacea.
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09-16-2014, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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So are LT tires steel belted, and if so do they do more or less damage VS ST tire when the pull apart?
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09-16-2014, 08:28 AM
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2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Yes, most all of them are steel belted, and they do just about as much damage, but historically so far, it hasn't happened that often. As a matter of fact, I know of no other LT failure but the one I had.
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Steve
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09-16-2014, 03:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 311
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So far the information has been very helpful as reading past forums can be some what confusing to a simple man who does not understand tires. I have decided to replace the wheels and tires at the same time. I am going to get rid of the old steel rims and hub caps for aluminum wheels. The question is:: 15 or 16 inch?
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A husband is the biggest baby you will have and take the most adult supervision.
Gene and Elaine Thomason
Ball Ground Ga.
1976 31 foot Sovereign
2011 GMC 2500HD Denali
6.6 Duramax Diesel
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09-16-2014, 03:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
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This is just my opinion, but if you are going to replace the wheels anyway, why not go to 16" and have a much bigger selection of LT tires to choose from?
I think the cheapest LT tire is better than the most expensive ST tire.
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Steve
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09-16-2014, 03:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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No flat spots. I do put it on jack stands for the deep winter months.
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