View Poll Results: AIRSTREAM *NON-ST* TIRE POLL – Applicable only to Airstreams with NON-ST tires
TYPE OF TIRE INSTALLED – Please select only one response in this category: 13 13.40%
Type of Tire Installed: ST (Special Trailer tire) – ATTENTION: DO NOT PROCEED – THIS POLL IS FOR *NON-ST* TIRES ONLY! 6 6.19%
Type of Tire Installed: P (Passenger car tire) 9 9.28%
Type of Tire Installed: XL (Extra Load passenger car tire) 10 10.31%
Type of Tire Installed: LT (Light Truck tire) 61 62.89%
Type of Tire Installed: Other or unknown 2 2.06%
TIRE MANUFACTURER – Please select only one response in this category: 2 2.06%
Tire Manufacturer: BF Goodrich – Commercial T/A 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: BF Goodrich – Other tire models 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Bridgestone 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Carlisle 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Continental 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Cooper 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Dick Cepek 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Dunlop 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Firestone 3 3.09%
Tire Manufacturer: Fuzion 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: General 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Goodyear 3 3.09%
Tire Manufacturer: Hankook 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Kumho 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Maxxis 1 1.03%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – LTX M/S (older model; NOT the Defender) only 6 6.19%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – LTX M/S2 only 56 57.73%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – LTX A/T2 only 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – Defender LTX M/S only 6 6.19%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – XPS Rib only 6 6.19%
Tire Manufacturer: Michelin – Other tire models 2 2.06%
Tire Manufacturer: Nexen 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Nokian 2 2.06%
Tire Manufacturer: Pirelli 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Sumitomo 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Toyo 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Uniroyal 0 0%
Tire Manufacturer: Yokohama 2 2.06%
Tire Manufacturer: Other 1 1.03%
MANUFACTURING COUNTRY – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Manufacturing Country: Canada 12 12.37%
Manufacturing Country: China 3 3.09%
Manufacturing Country: Europe 9 9.28%
Manufacturing Country: Mexico 0 0%
Manufacturing Country: Other Far Eastern Countries (e.g., Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia, etc.) 0 0%
Manufacturing Country: USA 20 20.62%
Manufacturing Country: Other or unknown 22 22.68%
TIRE SIZE – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Tire Size: 205 3 3.09%
Tire Size: 215 4 4.12%
Tire Size: 225 56 57.73%
Tire Size: 235 27 27.84%
Tire Size: Other 1 1.03%
TIRE ASPECT RATIO – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Tire Aspect Ratio: 70 11 11.34%
Tire Aspect Ratio: 75 73 75.26%
Tire Aspect Ratio: 80 1 1.03%
Tire Aspect Ratio: Other 2 2.06%
WHEEL SIZE – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Wheel Size: 14 inch 0 0%
Wheel Size: 15 inch 39 40.21%
Wheel Size: 16 inch 55 56.70%
Wheel Size: Other 0 0%
TIRE LOAD RANGE – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Tire Load Range: Standard 5 5.15%
Tire Load Range: C or XL 19 19.59%
Tire Load Range: D 9 9.28%
Tire Load Range: E 47 48.45%
Tire Load Range: F 1 1.03%
Tire Load Range: G 0 0%
NORMAL TIRE PRESSURE (cold) – Please select only one response in this category: 2 2.06%
Normal Tire Pressure: 36-44 psi 8 8.25%
Normal Tire Pressure: 50 psi 24 24.74%
Normal Tire Pressure: 55-60 psi 10 10.31%
Normal Tire Pressure: 65 psi 12 12.37%
Normal Tire Pressure: 72 psi 15 15.46%
Normal Tire Pressure: 80 psi 24 24.74%
Normal Tire Pressure: 80+ psi 1 1.03%
TIRE AGE (in years) – Please select only one response in this category: 4 4.12%
Tire Age (in years): 0-1 year 27 27.84%
Tire Age (in years): 1-2 years 13 13.40%
Tire Age (in years): 2-3 years 19 19.59%
Tire Age (in years): 3-4 years 12 12.37%
Tire Age (in years): 4-5 years 11 11.34%
Tire Age (in years): 5-6 years 4 4.12%
Tire Age (in years): 6-7 years 2 2.06%
Tire Age (in years): 7+ years 4 4.12%
Tire Age (in years): Unknown 1 1.03%
TIRE AGE (in miles) – Please select only one response in this category: 4 4.12%
Tire Age (in miles): 0-1,000 miles 12 12.37%
Tire Age (in miles): 1,000-5,000 miles 13 13.40%
Tire Age (in miles): 5,000-10,000 miles 20 20.62%
Tire Age (in miles): 10,000-15,000 miles 13 13.40%
Tire Age (in miles): 15,000-25,000 miles 17 17.53%
Tire Age (in miles): 25,000-50,000 miles 10 10.31%
Tire Age (in miles): 50,000-75,000 miles 2 2.06%
Tire Age (in miles): 75,000-100,000 miles 0 0%
Tire Age (in miles): 100,000+ miles 0 0%
Tire Age (in miles): Unknown 2 2.06%
ARE TIRES BALANCED – Please select only one response in this category: 7 7.22%
Are Tires Balanced: Static (bubble) balance 8 8.25%
Are Tires Balanced: Spin balance (tire spun on balancing machine or Airstream) 76 78.35%
Are Tires Balanced: No or unknown 6 6.19%
ARE DYNAMIC BALANCING DEVICES USED – Please select all responses that apply in this category: 4 4.12%
Dynamic Balancing Devices Used: Centramatics (or similar) 30 30.93%
Dynamic Balancing Devices Used: DynaBeads (or similar) 1 1.03%
Dynamic Balancing Devices Used: Other less common devices or methods 1 1.03%
Dynamic Balancing Devices Used: None or unknown 27 27.84%
NUMBER OF AXLES ON YOUR AIRSTREAM – Please select only one response in this category: 3 3.09%
Number of Axles on Your Airstream: 1 6 6.19%
Number of Axles on Your Airstream: 2 78 80.41%
Number of Axles on Your Airstream: 3 5 5.15%
WEIGHT OF AIRSTREAM (fully loaded, including tongue weight) – Please select only one response in this category: 4 4.12%
Weight of Airstream: 1,000-2,000 pounds 0 0%
Weight of Airstream: 2,000-3,000 pounds 1 1.03%
Weight of Airstream: 3,000-4,000 pounds 3 3.09%
Weight of Airstream: 4,000-5,000 pounds 8 8.25%
Weight of Airstream: 5,000-6,000 pounds 16 16.49%
Weight of Airstream: 6,000-7,000 pounds 17 17.53%
Weight of Airstream: 7,000-8,000 pounds 15 15.46%
Weight of Airstream: 8,000-9,000 pounds 23 23.71%
Weight of Airstream: 9,000-10,000 pounds 8 8.25%
Weight of Airstream: 10,000-11,000 pounds 3 3.09%
Weight of Airstream: 11,000-12,000 pounds 0 0%
Weight of Airstream: 12,000+ pounds 0 0%
PARKING SURFACE – Please select only one parking surface for tires during extended storage (longer than 30 days): 3 3.09%
Parking Surface: Dirt, rock, gravel, sand (or similar) 26 26.80%
Parking Surface: Asphalt 11 11.34%
Parking Surface: Concrete 35 36.08%
Parking Surface: Wood, cardboard, paper, etc. 7 7.22%
Parking Surface: Synthetic material (rubber, plastic, floor tiles, carpeting, etc.) 4 4.12%
Parking Surface: Off floor (Airstream on jacks) 5 5.15%
Parking Surface: Tires removed and stored off Airstream 0 0%
Parking Surface: Other 6 6.19%
AIRSTREAM TOWING CONDITIONS – Please select all responses that apply in this category: 4 4.12%
My Airstream is towed on: Interstate and multilane highways 80 82.47%
My Airstream is towed on: State and other improved two-lane highways, with shoulders 75 77.32%
My Airstream is towed on: Mostly paved and well-maintained lesser-used "backroads" 53 54.64%
My Airstream is towed on: Poorly/minimally maintained "backroads" and off-road 18 18.56%
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HAS A *NON-ST* TIRE FAILED ON YOUR AIRSTREAM – If YES is selected, please continue with this poll. However, if your answer is NO; please stop, and do not proceed further. The questions that follow pertain only to NON-ST tire failures. 4 4.12%
Has a NON-ST tire failed on your Airstream in the past 10 years? – Yes (Please continue.) 8 8.25%
Has a NON-ST tire failed on your Airstream in the past 10 years? – No (Please stop here.) 55 56.70%
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TIRE PRESSURE AT FAILURE – Please select only one response in this category: 0 0%
Tire Pressure at Failure: Tire was inflated to “normal tire pressure” (previously entered) 8 8.25%
Tire Pressure at Failure: Tire was inflated to a lower pressure 0 0%
Tire Pressure at Failure: Tire was inflated to a higher pressure 0 0%
Tire Pressure at Failure: Tire pressure was unknown at time of failure 0 0%
AMBIENT/OUTDOOR TEMPERATURE when tire failure occurred or was noticed – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Ambient/Outdoor Temperature at Failure: Subfreezing to freezing temperatures 0 0%
Ambient/Outdoor Temperature at Failure: Freezing to 70-degrees Fahrenheit 2 2.06%
Ambient/Outdoor Temperature at Failure: 70 to 90-degrees Fahrenheit 6 6.19%
Ambient/Outdoor Temperature at Failure: 90 to 110-degrees Fahrenheit 0 0%
Ambient/Outdoor Temperature at Failure: 110+ degrees Fahrenheit 0 0%
TIRE FAILURE DESCRIPTION – Please select all responses that apply in this category: 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Valve stem leak/failure 1 1.03%
Tire Failure Description: Bubble in sidewall 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Bubble in tread area 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Belt/tread slipped, but still relatively intact 1 1.03%
Tire Failure Description: Tread separated, but still partially attached to tire body 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Tread completely separated, but tire body still inflated 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Blowout, sidewall 0 0%
Tire Failure Description: Blowout, with tread separation 2 2.06%
Tire Failure Description: Other, not described above 4 4.12%
TIRE FAILURE TIME – Please select only one response in this category: 2 2.06%
Tire Failure Time: Before driving 2 2.06%
Tire Failure Time: While driving 4 4.12%
Tire Failure Time: After driving 1 1.03%
POSITION OF TIRE THAT FAILED – Please select all responses that apply in this category: 1 1.03%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #1 (front or single axle), left side 6 6.19%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #1 (front or single axle), right side 1 1.03%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #2, left side 1 1.03%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #2, right side 2 2.06%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #3, left side 1 1.03%
Position of Tire that Failed: Axle #3, right side 1 1.03%
CAUSES & CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 0 0%
Did a road hazard, hitch failure or vehicle accident cause or contribute to the tire failure: Yes 3 3.09%
Did a road hazard, hitch failure or vehicle accident cause or contribute to the tire failure: No 3 3.09%
Did the tire failure cause or contribute to a vehicle accident: Yes 0 0%
Did the tire failure cause or contribute to a vehicle accident: No 7 7.22%
NUMBER OF TIRES THAT FAILED IN ORIGINAL INCIDENT – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 1 7 7.22%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 2 0 0%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 3 0 0%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 4 0 0%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 5 0 0%
Number of Tires that Failed in Original Incident: 6 0 0%
NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL TIRES THAT FAILED WITHIN 30 DAYS OR 1,000 MILES OF ORIGINAL INCIDENT – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 1 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 2 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 3 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 4 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 5 1 1.03%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 30 Days or 1,000 Miles: 6 0 0%
NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL TIRES THAT FAILED WITHIN 12 MONTHS OR 12,000 MILES OF ORIGINAL INCIDENT – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 1 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 2 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 3 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 4 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 5 0 0%
Number of Additional Tires that Failed within 12 Months or 12,000 Miles: 6 0 0%
COST OF ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE, TOWING, ETC. (including expenses reimbursed by insurance; however, do not include cost of new tires, wheels, etc.) – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $0 3 3.09%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $1-100 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $100-250 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $250-500 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $500-1,000 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $1,000-2,500 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $2,500-5,000 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $5,000-10,000 0 0%
Cost of Roadside Assistance, Towing, etc.: $10,000+ 0 0%
COST OF TIRE REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT (including new tire and/or wheel, shipping, extended warranty, mounting & balancing and similar charges, even if reimbursed by insurance) – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $0 0 0%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $1-100 3 3.09%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $100-250 2 2.06%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $250-500 2 2.06%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $500-1,000 0 0%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $1,000-1,500 0 0%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $1,500-2,000 0 0%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $2,000-2,500 0 0%
Cost of Tire Repair or Replacement: $2,500+ 0 0%
ADDITIONAL DAMAGE TO AIRSTREAM – Please select all responses that apply in this category: 1 1.03%
Additional Damage to Airstream: None 6 6.19%
Additional Damage to Airstream: Minor cosmetic damage (even if not repaired) 1 1.03%
Additional Damage to Airstream: Functional damage to other tires, wheels, suspension parts, etc. 0 0%
Additional Damage to Airstream: Functional damage affecting safety, including brake lines/parts, electrical wiring, propane lines, etc. 0 0%
Additional Damage to Airstream: Major damage to exterior or interior of Airstream, including body panels, windows, rock guards, water heater, refrigerator, etc. 0 0%
Additional Damage: Tow vehicle or other vehicles 0 0%
Additional Damage: Personal injury, property or other damage associated with tire failure 0 0%
COST OF ADDITIONAL DAMAGE TO AIRSTREAM (estimate, if not repaired) – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $0 4 4.12%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $1-100 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $100-500 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $500-1,000 1 1.03%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $1,000-2,500 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $2,500-5,000 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $5,000-7,500 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $7,500-10,000 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $10,000-15,000 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $15,000-25,000 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: $25,000+ 0 0%
Cost of Additional Damage to Airstream: Total loss (scrap/salvage) 0 0%
COST OF OTHER DAMAGE (including personal injury, property, tow vehicle or other damage associated with tire failure) – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Cost of Other Damage: $0 5 5.15%
Cost of Other Damage: $1-100 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $100-500 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $500-1,000 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $1,000-2,500 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $2,500-5,000 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $5,000-10,000 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $10,000-25,000+ 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $25,000-50,000 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: $50,000+ 0 0%
Cost of Other Damage: Total loss (tow vehicle, other vehicles and/or property) 0 0%
TOW VEHICLE TIRE DAMAGE – Please select only one response in this category: 1 1.03%
Tow Vehicle Tire Damage – Were tires also damaged on your tow vehicle: Yes 0 0%
Tow Vehicle Tire Damage – Were tires also damaged on your tow vehicle: No 4 4.12%
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Old 10-09-2016, 02:54 PM   #43
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No catastrophic separation or torn aluminum though from the pictures. Looks pretty contained.


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Old 10-09-2016, 03:24 PM   #44
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Well, I already completed the poll, but had a Michelin ltx failure Fri night. Not the tire's fault. HUGE, full lane pothole at a truck stop entrance where big rigs have eaten up the pavement bed. Just happened to notice it while putting my tpms sensors back on.
The pictures don't really seem to show failure. What exactly happened to the tire. Sidewall failure?
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:49 PM   #45
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Pics don't show it well. Look at the third one. Right above the "M", you can see a dark diagonal wrinkle in the sidewall. I caught the edge of the pothole and tore the fabric. It then ran up under the tread. About half the diameter of the tire has the tread rounded and bulged out. Also, the tread block groves at the shoulder are supposed to be pretty perpendicular to the tread face. They are slipped to about 30* around about a quarter of the diameter. Busted and slipped belts. I was lucky to make the 100 or so miles to my destination.
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:51 PM   #46
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Ok,
We switched to Michelin LTX M/S2's 3 years ago when I still ran my auto repair business. I was hesitant to switch from the Marathons initially as we have a fairly heavy 16' International Serenity that I have added weight to over the years. I'm sure that we are at or near our 4300 pound GVWR when we travel and I wondered how the Michelins would hold up at or just beyond their maximum load capacity. In the end, after suffering 2 separate incidences of Marathons going "out of round" I decided that we'd try them and monitor them with an internally-mounted-sensor TPMS system by Dill. This not only gives us pressure monitoring but temperature.
In the past 25,000 to 30,000 miles of towing, the Michelin tires have been perfect.
I no longer own the Hunter Road Force balancer (retired, sold everything but my toolboxs) so I can't easily check them for runout (Road Force) the way I could but the tires look new.
We are about to embark on a trip around the US this winter/spring and I wonder if we should simply replace them as a matter of preventative maintenance.
Not sure what we will decide...
I will endeavor to weigh the Bambi to see just how fat it is these days...maybe this week. That may impact my decision.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:17 PM   #47
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I don't know if age had any responsibility for my issue, but they are 5 1/2 years old. But the impact I experienced may have busted a brand new tire. They have been perfect up to this point.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:29 PM   #48
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Also, I should mention, this tire had previously been patched and plugged not terribly far from the impact area.
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Old 10-09-2016, 07:23 PM   #49
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Also, I should mention, this tire had previously been patched and plugged not terribly far from the impact area.
Hmmmm.......5 1/2 years old and previously plugged and patched in the failed area.

With all due respect why did you even waste our time?
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Because OP wants data.
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Our ST tires did not fail us, but given their age it was time for new ones.
Rather than put more money down that particular hole, we decided to make a new one, buying 16" Sendel T-03 wheels and the Michelin 16" LTX-M/S2 tires.
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Re: Michelin XPS Ribs

We replaced our six-year-old XPS Ribs today. They had 50,000 miles on them and would have gone 100,000 miles or more, if we had been able to cover more ground before weather-checking and age caught up with them. In fact, there was 11/32" of tread remaining (new tire tread depth is 14/32"). We probably could have gotten another year or two out of them; but with our longer annual roadtrips since retirement, I didn't think it was worth the risk.

The new XPS Ribs were made in Germany, like the first ones we bought in January 2011; and one is about six months old, and the other is four. Surprisingly, Discount Tire's $245 price (per tire) dropped $35 since 2011.

I have commented several times that the XPS Rib is about as close to bulletproof as regular tires get, with a one-ply steel casing and three additional steel belts under the tread. Well, when the tire tech took one of the old Ribs off of the wheel, it had a nail in it that was worn down flush with the surface of the tread; AND the nail had not penetrated the inner tire lining. All he did was pull the nail out! We're saving this loose tire as an extra spare for an upcoming roadtrip to Alaska; and the other mounted XPS Rib replaced our previous spare, which was a 10-year-old, 15" Carlisle ST tire left over from our Bambi's failure-prone ST days.

Hopefully, we'll be able to wear off more rubber from these "Energizer Bunny" tires before they are replaced in 2023.

Note: In the past six years, we did absolutely nothing to the old XPS Ribs, except add about 5 psi to each tire every year, in the spring. Before switching to 16" wheels and XPS Ribs, we were constantly worried about ST tire failures on the road. In my opinion, the extra $100 per tire is like tire insurance; and $200 in six years is nothing compared to the $450 for roadside assistance, $800 in Airstream wheel well repairs, and $500 in replacement ST tires during the six years before we switched to XPS Ribs.
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50,000 plus miles on Ribs with zero issues in all weather conditions and temperatures.When the time comes it will be Ribs again for our 28ft International.Filled with nitrogen and have never had to add any for 3 years now.67psi cold.
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Michelin LTX MS/2 tread separation failure

Note: See link below for discussion thread initiated by AirForums member "Blkmagikca", which contains details and photos of a Michelin LTX MS/2 tread separation failure.

Tread Separation on Michelin LTX225/75R16(E) M+S2
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2 yrs on Michelin defenders p metric no problems
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