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Old 06-03-2015, 12:50 PM   #29
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Please provide a current reference.

On another note; Michelin dose not warranty LT tires when used as replacements for original equipment ST tires. They consider it a misapplication of the LT tire.

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Old 06-03-2015, 01:27 PM   #30
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I have Tow Master ST on 1969 Safari since...wait for it........2006...I hear the haters coming! No issues..None. Stored inside; Always check tire pressure before, during and after each trip to the Adirondacks. Mixture of freeway speed of 65mph-75mph to US Route speeds with twisting back roads.
Drove from Ocala, Florida to Helena, Ohio to East Ryegate, Vermont in 2007 same tires no blow outs, lose rivets or internal damage. So I'm replacing my 3-2006 Tow Master ST's with 2015 Tow Masters ST225/75r/15
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:39 PM   #31
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Iím not a Michelin slammer, I have a new set of Michelinís on my SUV. However, their XPS rib is a very durable, retreadable commercial light truck tire and very expensive in itís size category. Michelin does not tout it for any sort of trailer service. That would be in the decision making process of a vehicle manufacturer.

http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tires/products/xps-rib.html


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Iím not a Michelin slammer, I have a new set of Michelinís on my SUV. However, their XPS rib is a very durable, retreadable commercial light truck tire and very expensive in itís size category. Michelin does not tout it for any sort of trailer service. That would be in the decision making process of a vehicle manufacturer.

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If Michelin doesn't tout them for trailer use, then why is the first review on the link you posted read in big bold letters "My Horse Trailer Tires for 13+ Years!"?

On their RV site they are listed as "All Position" tires.

I didn't say they were the best choice for an Airstream, just that they are approved for trailer use by Michelin.
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Airstream now offers the Michelin LTX on trailers as an option - just saying. The two tires listed in their parts section are the Goodyear Marathons and Michelin LTX.
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Airstream now offers the Michelin LTX on trailers as an option - just saying. The two tires listed in their parts section are the Goodyear Marathons and Michelin LTX.
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Black Aces will tell you that LT tires on a trailer are a "mis-application".

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What tires do you have on your trailers? Sizes etc...???
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[QUOTE=Top;1631773]True.

Black Aces will tell you that LT tires on a trailer are a "mis-application".

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The Vehicle manufacturer has the ultimate decision as to what they will use as tire fitments on whatever they build. Once they chose the LT tire design for trailer axles and show that choice on the certification label thatís then the proper tire for that trailer.

Michelin considers replacing ST tires that are listed on a trailerís certification label as OE tires a misapplication. However, they do not consider replacing an original equipment LT tire on a trailer with another LT tire to be a misapplication.

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Gentlemen,

Can you agree to disagree and move on?

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What kind of tire thread would this be if we agree?

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One that I don't have to shut down because the users can not comply with the TOS or CR listed at the bottom of every page and everyone agreed to when they signed up.

And I am not asking for agreement on any issue by any parties. What I am asking for is being civil, state your point of view and in the face of opposition to agree the other party has the right to disagree with your point of view. Then move on. Trading posts and restating points of view isn't productive for the posters, the readers and certainly not for the volunteer mod staff.

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Can you actually imagine 99 mph with a 34 in tow? Crazy scary thought!

NO I know of no tire rated above 75 for RV application by the tire manufacturer. Tires can have their capabilities changed based on application.

If you put a P type on truck or trailer you need to de-rate the load by dividing by 1.1
No matter what the speed symbol is when in RV application (trailer of MH) the Max speed rating is 75 (until someone can show me a clearly stated exception from the manufacturer)
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There are LT tires where the manufacturer is more than okay with their use as trailer tires. Jimnlin on Woodalls has several times compiled lists, and correspondence, of several brands and models of such.

Let's remember that ST is a recent tire designation. Not so long ago any trailer tire of this type was a light truck tire.

If by "recent" you mean 1980's you are correct. They are listed in the 1990 TRA yearbook.
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Here's my damage costs

16" Michelin blowout repairs $17345.18 not including new tires

15" blowouts $0
So far, the 15" ST tires are costing me a whole lot less. I've only run the 16"Michelin for 2 years or only 60000 miles..... I'm in the camp of not so happy campers!

Any brand will "Blowout" or more properly have a Run Low Flex Break if operated at very low inflation at highway speed. It only takes a couple of miles to destroy a tire.
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This is an over discussed topic but always one that surfaces further considerations. At tire dealers I hear all kinds of recommendations. Based on real world experience, for a 1990 25' A/S, what are your thoughts on the best choices? I hear Tow Master, Michelin, Carlyle, Marathon, etc.
Thanks in advance for your comments. Lou
Some critical information missing that would allow an informed reply.
What is the actual load on each tire? Lacking that you neet at least provide the actual load on each axle. The above loads need to be when the TT is loaded at its heaviest.

It would also be helpful if you could provide the original tire size and current size if different. Also the GAWR as provided by Airstream.

With this those with tire engineering background could provide some suggestions. Lacking this basic inf any other suggestion is not much more than a guess.
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