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Old 06-02-2015, 04:45 PM   #15
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:02 PM   #16
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:18 PM   #17
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I have had great luck with the standard Good Year Marathons. I have a 30' Classic and they wear very well. Also almost all Walmarts have them. I know you will hear a lot of stories, but?
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:00 PM   #18
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:16 PM   #19
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Here's my damage costs

16" Michelin blowout repairs $17345.18 not including new tires

15" blowouts $0
So far, the 15" ST tires are costing me a whole lot less. I've only run the 16"Michelin for 2 years or only 60000 miles..... I'm in the camp of not so happy campers!
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:19 PM   #20
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I have run the Maxxis UE-168 which is a commercial tire that is both LT and ST rated. I've got about 25,000 miles on them in seven years. They've been great. They are a Load Range D (65psi max) and are rated at 2337lbs. I'm not sure you have to derate them due to the dual rating. I run them on my triple axle and have never popped a side bead.

Q speed rating which is 99mph. I've not had it that fast....

Bravo Series UE-168(N) | Maxxis Tires USA


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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=35&

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Old 06-02-2015, 06:23 PM   #21
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Can you actually imagine 99 mph with a 34 in tow? Crazy scary thought!
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:34 PM   #22
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There are LT tires where the manufacturer is more than okay with their use as trailer tires. Jimnlin on Woodalls has several times compiled lists, and correspondence, of several brands and models of such.

Let's remember that ST is a recent tire designation. Not so long ago any trailer tire of this type was a light truck tire.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:59 AM   #23
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I also strongly disagree with the LT tires only crowd, & think that using the proper ST tires specifically designed for trailer use is the way to go.

In fact, the big problem is with cut-rate manufacturers - mostly Chinese at present - who are making inferior products.

Even the vaunted USA & European mfgrs can make a defective tire, as the Michelin noted above.

I too had a belt separation blowout at 65 mph of a <24 months & >90% tread Michelin LT 195/70R14-C 8PR tire correctly spec'ed as OEM for our 1988 VW Westfalia camper van (back when Michelin still made them)!!!!

So, yes the LT Michi's DO FAIL as well, & don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Is there any harm in running LT tires on a trailer? - well other than LT's having more "grip" & rolling resistance than ST tires, which are made to roll easier by design since you're pulling & don't need the traction - probably not, even if certain folks above & on here will tell you the visa versa is a disaster waiting to happen.

Far more important is that the tires are less 5 years or less old, no checking or splits in the sidewalls or treads, inflated to proper pressure, properly sized & rated for your trailer, inspected regularly ...

... & that your TV & TT tires are not overworked by speeding or running fast & hot through the desert 120+ degree heat where pavement temps can exceed 200 & that overheasts & thereby over pressurizes properly inflated tires, & any other "stupid 2-legged animal tricks"!

Now to my ST tire recco ....

On the recommendation of a vintage trailer restorer who has done 100s of vintage trailers, I'm running the MAXXIS M8008 ST225/75R15-E 8PR (we could use D 6PR on our Avion T20, but they are hard to find in the lower rating).

You cab find them at the MAXXIS link below, then check for one of their local tire stores which carry them near you - but you'll probably need to have them order them for you.

ST Radial M8008 | Maxxis Tires USA

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Good Morning Tom,

Terrific info. Question: Would there be any harm moving up to a 10 ply 225/75/RS Rather than an 8 ply as recommended. I doubt if my 25' A/S will ever reach 7,000lbs.?? Max is 6,800lbs. Dr. De:
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Mannnny Thanks Jim,

Several questions: where do you note dual rating. I see only LT? Also, for my A/S which calls for 225 I do not see a tire listed as such. The closest is a 235. Any further thoughts appreciated. Dr. De





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I have run the Maxxis UE-168 which is a commercial tire that is both LT and ST rated. I've got about 25,000 miles on them in seven years. They've been great. They are a Load Range D (65psi max) and are rated at 2337lbs. I'm not sure you have to derate them due to the dual rating. I run them on my triple axle and have never popped a side bead.

Q speed rating which is 99mph. I've not had it that fast....

Bravo Series UE-168(N) | Maxxis Tires USA


Some good info.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=35&

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Old 06-03-2015, 09:11 AM   #25
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If you like your ST tires by all means keep them. In short drive, cool weather conditions they may work for you.
I take at least one hot weather freeway trip a year as we drive from Mexico, through Arizona and New Mexico to Colorado in June. I have a 25 foot Safari and D rated 225 ST tires were way below their load limits. I would have at least one ST tire failure every time I took that trip. One year I had to go from Tucson, Az to Ft Lauderdale, Florida in late June. On that trip, I had 4 ST tire blowouts. One tire lasted only 200 miles. Ever wonder why there is a fly by night tire store at nearly every exit down south and there are tire hunk alligators that line the shoulders faster than the highway department can pick them up? Now I know.
Believe me lying down changing a tire on the shoulder of an interstate in 100 degree weather with semis blasting by is no fun.
I ended the trip with Maxxis E's. They lasted a while before the tread separated and never did blow out. If you have to have ST tires Maxxis' are the best. E rated tires near maximum inflation pressure will give you a bone shaking ride.
Speed was always under 65 and I checked pressure every morning. ST tires are designed for 65 mph, 100 degrees or less. On a freeway trip in hot weather you will exceed the temperature limit every day and you will have ST tire failures if you drive enough miles.
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Here's my damage costs

16" Michelin blowout repairs $17345.18 not including new tires

15" blowouts $0
So far, the 15" ST tires are costing me a whole lot less. I've only run the 16"Michelin for 2 years or only 60000 miles..... I'm in the camp of not so happy campers!
That's a real bummer. Especially the (non) warranty. Michelin does approve the XPS RIB for trailer use.
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100 degrees or less.
Can you provide a reference for that?

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Michelin does approve the XPS RIB for trailer use.
Please provide a current reference.

On another note; Michelin dose not warranty LT tires when used as replacements for original equipment ST tires. They consider it a misapplication of the LT tire.

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