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06-18-2007, 10:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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2 times the charm!
Just got back from our trip from the Coast..stopped for breakfast in Bodega Bay..btw, Tippi Hedren (star of The Birds) will be at the Tides June 30-July 1..
On our way back to the truck and safari, Steve glanced at the tires..would you believe the left side tire had a chunk missing!..we got back into the truck and found the boat launch parking lot, stopped and replaced the bad tire w/the spare..I think we're going to try radials next time..
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06-18-2007, 10:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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I sure am glad you saw the damage before the tire let go.
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06-18-2007, 10:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codybear
Just got back from our trip from the Coast..stopped for breakfast in Bodega Bay..btw, Tippi Hedren (star of The Birds) will be at the Tides June 30-July 1..
On our way back to the truck and safari, Steve glanced at the tires..would you believe the left side tire had a chunk missing!..we got back into the truck and found the boat launch parking lot, stopped and replaced the bad tire w/the spare..I think we're going to try radials next time..
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Was the bad tire on the Safari? If so I would ask a tire person but I don't think you should put radials on a trailer...any trailer.
Neil and Lynn
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1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
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06-18-2007, 11:17 PM
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Desert Fox
1985 31' Sovereign
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 250
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Hi,
I do not understand. Why no radials on the trailer? Since I put my radials on our AS I gained a 1 mille per gallon and the trailer wants to roll.
Waiting for an good answere.
Regards from Russell in sunny and hot Tucson Az.
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06-19-2007, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Here's a pic of it..we had used bias w/split rims on the '64 safari. Anyone have any recommendations?
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06-19-2007, 08:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Still using split rims? Some people do report finding shops that will still work with those -- not for the inexperienced! It will take some care to get high capacity wheels and the right bolt pattern if you ever replace the split rims.
How many years were on those tires?
[On edit: Tim Shephard found a good supplier in Trailer Tire & Wheel Supermarket on theVAP.]
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06-19-2007, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
Still using split rims? Some people do report finding shops that will still work with those -- not for the inexperienced! It will take some care to get high capacity wheels and the right bolt pattern if you ever replace the split rims.
How many years were on those tires?
[On edit: Tim Shephard found a good supplier in Trailer Tire & Wheel Supermarket on theVAP.]
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Hi Bob,
Thnx for the tip: the split rim is the old spare tire..he's using regular rims now.
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06-20-2007, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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update:
We've got new tires to try now and will see how long they last: Transmaster st Radials, 80 pounds cold pressure 10 ply..steel belted..I asked the tire guy how long he thought they'd last us..he said jokingly, about 20 minutes..
I asked him what caused the tire to fall apart: he suggested: over/under inflation, going from hot to colder temperatures (you lose a pound of pressure with every 10 degrees), rough roads, and other possible factors..
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06-20-2007, 06:35 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,508
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10 ply may be a bit of overkill. And if the insides are not shook up after you travel I would say kool!
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1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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06-20-2007, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Hi Moderator Dude!!!..well, they're on and ready to go another couple thousand miles ( time will tell, huh?) through CA then Oregon, Washington, Canada and back..will report on the hefty tires!!!
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06-20-2007, 07:39 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2000 25' Excella
Kingston
, Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 905
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We were told that we couldnt use 10 ply tires. We went through a bunch hassle just to trade them for 8 ply! Is this not true?
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06-20-2007, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Hi John, Tammy, We had 8 ply and went to 10 ply...so we'll see how good they hold up!
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06-20-2007, 07:51 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Single axle trailers can get away with a heavier-duty tire, because more of their weight is concentrated on each tire. You still should not exceeed the D load inflation pressure, it will shake the trailer up more if you go over that. You may also have an issue with the wheels if you overinflate.
There is no reason not to use radial tires on trailers, that, after all, is what Goodyear Marathons are. ST=Special Trailer 225= size of tire, in millimeters 75=aspect ratio, aka tire width R= Radial 15= diameter.
If you have a problem getting tires inside the wheelwells, you may ant to deflate the tires to gain a little more room to manuever tham. 700x15 tires are slowly going away, we may as well go with the "new" technology.
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06-20-2007, 08:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Hi Terry, Steve just commented after I read your post to him..he almost was going to deflate the tire to get it up on the wheel..he asked his neighbor and was able to lift it on..he agrees w/you, phasing out of the bias700x15...
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06-20-2007, 09:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codybear
update:
We've got new tires to try now and will see how long they last: Transmaster st Radials, 80 pounds cold pressure 10 ply..steel belted..I asked the tire guy how long he thought they'd last us..he said jokingly, about 20 minutes..
I asked him what caused the tire to fall apart: he suggested: over/under inflation, going from hot to colder temperatures (you lose a pound of pressure with every 10 degrees), rough roads, and other possible factors..
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Hi, I don't think that tire guy knows what he is talking about; Looks to me like a California Black Bear took a bite out of it. Don't feed the animals.
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06-20-2007, 10:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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Hi Robert,
You're absolutely right! No feeding the animals, especially black bears!!!
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06-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Excella
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 673
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Tires
As I have stared before,
You dont need tire with more weight carrying capacity, just tires designed to withstand the heat.
The 65 MPH Special Trailer (except for the Cooper Custom trailer plus) has no safety margin when run at 65 mph on hot summer days.
Those of us who have gone back to the original type tire that came on our trailers have stopped having trouble.
LT 225/75R16 Load Range D.
Beginner
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