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Old 04-10-2016, 12:42 PM   #113
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The Firestone TransForce is not a long life tire.
I chose this tire due to price.
No need to spend more for longer tread life that I will never get to use because the tires will dry rot first whether I paid more or less for the tires. No need to pay for 80,000 mile tires when they will dry rot or age out at 40,000 miles.


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I'm not as concerned about tire longevity as much as safety. Apparently the don't rate well in wet, ice and light snow.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:56 PM   #114
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I meant to address that in the other thread.
I live in Mississippi.
No snow or ice to speak of.
TransForce HT (Highway Tread) is what we run on our fleet vehicles in the south.
We are a nationwide fleet. We use Firestone TransForce AT (All Terrain) in the north.
I don't know how the TransForce AT compares to other M+S (Mud and Snow) tires.
Does traction in snow and ice on a trailer really matter?
Seems like it would be more important for the tow vehicle to have traction.
No tire- and no vehicle- is truly safe on snow and ice.
Who camps in snow and ice?
The best thing to do in snow and ice is stay home if possible.
I know we have to go to work.


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Old 04-10-2016, 02:08 PM   #115
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I meant to address that in the other thread.
I live in Mississippi.
No snow or ice to speak of.
TransForce HT (Highway Tread) is what we run on our fleet vehicles in the south.
We are a nationwide fleet. We use Firestone TransForce AT (All Terrain) in the north.
I don't know how the TransForce AT compares to other M+S (Mud and Snow) tires.
Does traction in snow and ice on a trailer really matter?
Seems like it would be more important for the tow vehicle to have traction.
No tire- and no vehicle- is truly safe on snow and ice.
Who camps in snow and ice?
The best thing to do in snow and ice is stay home if possible.
I know we have to go to work.
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I didn't mean to derail the discussion. I am very happy with my P235/75R15 LTX MS2s with Senders on my 23D. A huge upgrade over the 14 inch stock GYMs. I had 16" LTs with Sendels on my last Airstream and loved them.

I've got 2000 miles on the Firestone Transforce ATs that came with my 2016 RAM 2500 4x4. I'm going to Alaska next month and in light of the not so favorable reviews of those tires by RAM 2500 users, I'm may upgrade to another tire that I feel more confidence in given the fact that the weather up there can be quite variable all year long.

I don't see why you wouldn't want to put the Firestone Transforce HTs on your trailer, however you can get Michelins for the same price and probably be happier in my opinion.
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:45 AM   #116
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I really really trust Andy at CanAm. He set me up with my hitch on my Touareg and it works flawlessly. They've done the hard work in testing these tires to know how they perform. Had a friend try to skimp by in bad cheap tires on his motorcycle and nearly killed his wife when one blew. I know a trailer is different than a bike but still. It's better to be on the safe side than be cheap. These airstreams are pretty pricey to repair and a blown tire can shrewd these things to pieces!

I copied a link from discount tires about ST tires for trailers. Notice that these type of tires only last 5,000 to 12,000 miles.

http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.do
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:30 PM   #117
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I really really trust Andy at CanAm. He set me up with an awesome tow package on my Touareg and I know they've put the time into testing these tires so that's what I'm going with.

Just a side note on a cheap friend of mine that ran cheap worn tires on his motorcycle. He had one blow and nearly killed his wife that was riding with him. Now I know that it might be not as critical to run bad tires on a trailer than a bike but the potential is there for bad things to happen. And these trailers can get pretty torn up with a simple blown tire. You could easily spend $5,000 plus on repaired.

I found a link that gives a lot of info on ST tires. Two things that stick out to me are the 65 mph speed limit and the 5,000 to 12,000 wear limit.

Get rid of the marathons and get Michelin tires for your rv.

http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.do
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oops was making a post on my iPhone and it didn't look like it went through so I made another one.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:59 AM   #119
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Two things that stick out to me are the 65 mph speed limit and the 5,000 to 12,000 wear limit.

Get rid of the marathons and get Michelin tires for your rv.

http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.do
5,000 to 12,000 miles is crazy. Why would any tire be rated for so little mileage?
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5,000 to 12,000 miles is crazy. Why would any tire be rated for so little mileage?
Only a guess, but maybe they're designed for part time campers that wouldn't put many miles on their trailer during the other expiration measurement, which is 3-4 years according to the information linked. That would only be 3-4 thousand miles a year at the upper limit.
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I know! The mileage thing is just unbelievable! You'd think an ST tire would outperform a truck tire but it's just not so.

I finally got the trailer de-winterized and went through all the systems. Everything checks out! Oh yeah and five Michelin 235/75r15 LTX's!!!

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I think folks may be misreading the 5,000 to 12,000 miles language. Go back to the original Discount Tire page (also linked below) and read the entire "Trailer Tire Facts" section, including the warranty information near the bottom, which is for 3 years or 3/32" tread depth. No mention of mileage . . .

Under the heading "Mileage" is this:

"The mileage expectation of a trailer tire is 5,000 to 12,000 miles." [emphasis added]

This statement is a general one made in the context of an overall discussion about trailer tires, and it specifically does NOT say anything about these mileages being limits, otherwise the warranty section would also say so, in my personal opinion. Also, where have you ever seen limits being stated with the word "or" in the middle?

Not interested in debating this, as online debates about wording are difficult, so . . .

FWIW and FYI.

PS -- The referenced page refers to Carlisle Tires at the end, so reading the page "before" this one may also be helpful, whatever that was!

http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoT...19&irpid=10078

PS2 -- I am planning on getting Michelin 16" when possible.
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Ok. So in three year or 5-12,000 miles I'll expect to replace the. That may not be a manufactures limit but it does limit the use of these tires.

Check out the tread depth on these Carlisle's. Way more than 3/32's. What's recommended tread depth for replacement.

http://youtu.be/sO3VtbPJAII

All I know is the truck tires have proven track record with these trailers.

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Old 04-13-2016, 06:31 PM   #125
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Sendall wheels. What makes them better than other other wheels? Other than yuppie thing have to have. I have hi spec wheels 15 1nch on my AS very happy. I have no int. of changing to sendall
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I also have original Alcoa wheels from AS opt. equip 1976
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