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Old 09-11-2016, 05:35 AM   #309
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Have been stock on the Classic since 2015 and were stock on the Eddie Bauer.
Optional on other larger 2 axle trailers through the dealer or Jackson Center.
When you walk through the front door at the service center the first thing you see is 16" Sendel T03 wheels and Michelin LT tires- at least 2 years ago when I went- so apparently it was a popular upgrade in 2014 and previous years, too.


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Old 09-11-2016, 10:46 AM   #310
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The GVW of our 2014 31' Classic is 10,000 pounds.

The stock GYM ST225/75R15D tires (in model year 2014 [and earlier] and have been replaced with the tires we changed to since 2015 model year) are rated 2,540 pounds @ 65 psi. Thus the GYM tire capacity is 10,160 pounds. The Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 tires are rated 2,680 pounds @ 80 psi for a load capacity for four of 10,720 pounds. So we have a greater load carrying capacity with the 16" Michelins or at lower loads have a greater safety margin.

Our actual loads by tire location camping ready after all the modifications

Classic scale numbers May 2015

……….1200 ———————1200

2034…………..2042 ——— 4076

1921…………..2062 ——— 3983

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The removal of the six gallon Dometic water tank and water heater and replacing with a Truma AquaGo Comfort instant on water heater reduced the load on the street rear tire.

The Load E tire loads at different pressures

80psi 2,680 (E)
75psi 2,560
70psi 2,440
65psi 2,335 (D)
60psi 2,190
55psi 2,060
50psi 1,940 (C)
45psi 1,790

My target tire pressure of 72/73 psi means each tire has 2,500 pound capacity with the heaviest having a 21% safety margin.

I have had GYM tire failures on my motorcycle trailers. In nearly 50 years of Michelin tire use,I have never had a tire failure. Thus all three Airstreams I have owned were converted to Michelin tires. Works for me.

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Old 09-25-2016, 11:14 AM   #311
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New 16" wheels and tires..great!

Thanks for all the info...new shoes are great!
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:26 PM   #312
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Yikes, they mounted the tires and your trailer sideways!

The sideways thing is kind of a pain, but I've found that I can fix that before posting if I open the picture in any app, resize it and then post the resized photo instead of the original. For some reason, AF software often rotates the original cameraphone image 90 degrees.
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Thanks.. lol.. I was on my iPhone or I would have fixed it.
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:31 PM   #314
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Sorry to tell you this but the real reason that manufacturers use ST tires is because they are the cheapest they can buy wholesale.


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Source? How about they use trailer tires because they are selling trailers?
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Old 09-25-2016, 03:02 PM   #315
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Source? How about they use trailer tires because they are selling trailers?


If you feel the company is ultimately buying the tires because they are the absolute best option you are sadly mistaken. At the end of the day what they put on the trailer is a business decision driven at its core by cost and profit. That's not a negative it's a fact.
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Old 09-25-2016, 03:15 PM   #316
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When I bought my 2001 Safari in 2014 the tires had been changed once but the tires on it were aged out, and the spare was original. I opted for the 16" Michelins and Sendel T03 wheels and added a Dill TPMS. When I traded it in on my 2002 Classic this past February, I moved the wheels and tires to the Classic. On the way home I ran over some debris left on a exit ramp from an accident. About a mile later, the Dill alarmed - not the tire's fault. I have now run the wheels and tires about 8 months and 11,000 miles, for a total of about 30 months and 18,000 miles with no incidents. I find the air pressure to be very stable, hardly ever needing any air added and even then, only a pound or two.

The only caution I would give is watch your wheels for filiform corrosion. Right about 1 year mine started corroding, and this is after I put some Collinite Insulator Wax on them before they were installed. Unfortunately I didn't address it with Sendel before the 1 year warranty ran out so now I'll have to live with it.

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Old 09-26-2016, 03:55 PM   #317
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Yea I noticed the T03 do have a slightly higher rating (300lbs) but the 25' I have I'm already super on the + side. Thanks for the extra info though!

Griner3, I just put T02s with my new 16" MIchelins for the same reason.


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Griner3, I just put T02s with my new 16" MIchelins for the same reason.


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Yea I'm very happy with the result... just took it to fort wilderness this past weekend! We also added the Dill TPMS which is great!
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Fort Wilderness is more exciting than T02 or T03 or LT tires, but those things are an expedient to a safe and worry free trip to Disney.
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Yea I noticed the T03 do have a slightly higher rating (300lbs) but the 25' I have I'm already super on the + side. Thanks for the extra info though!
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Do you mean 3000 lbs since (300lbs) can't be right for a weight capacity. And 300 psi would be kind of high though maybe possible.

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Do you mean 3000 lbs since (300lbs) can't be right for a weight capacity. And 300 psi would be kind of high though maybe possible.



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300lb is the difference in load capacity between the 2 rim styles.
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Old 09-29-2016, 04:36 AM   #322
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Just for giggles I am pasting a disclaimer I found in our 2017 Classic Owners Manual I am reading as we picked her up two days ago. Yes we have the 16' Michelins as standard equipment, but I've also put them on three other Airstreams we have owned starting back in 2010.

The maximum speed rating on the tires installed
on your trailer is 106 MPH. Do not exceed this
rating. Failure to heed this warning could cause
catastrophic tire failure resulting in property
damage, personal injury, and/or death.
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