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Old 10-19-2016, 03:34 PM   #113
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$80,000 AS / upwards of $4,000 in trailer damage when a ST belt separates at highway speed. I have not heard of one person who has suffered trailer damage running a Michelin but plenty running STs including myself back years ago. When you go through it, it makes buying a quality set of Michelins or my latest choice Nokians, a pleasure. I consider it other form of cheap insurance providing safety and peace of mind. I never think about my tires. Don't put monitors, or balancers on. Typically check the nitrogen pressure at the start of season and then just a quick glance when filling up during my typical walk around.


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Old 10-19-2016, 03:50 PM   #114
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What I'm curious about is whether the ST tire failures are "old news." That is, I wonder whether more recently made ST tires--especially GYM's--are better made these days that previously.

Does anyone have any data as to whether the GYM failures reported here happened in the last 3-5 years, or before then?
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:15 PM   #115
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ST tires may well be better made now that in the past. I hope so. But I do not think they will ever be made well enough for me to take the chance on them. Having run LT and XL tires for the last 10 years I simply will not go back to ST tires.

I actually do have GYM's on one trailer. But I do not pull the trailer any more. And ever since day one all 4 of them loose 20 lbs of air in 9 months just sitting still. When we had that trailer on the road I had to air the tires every 2 weeks.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:40 PM   #116
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The new ones I just took off my 2015 looked just the same as in the days of old. Hard dry rubber, uneven tread and bulging malformed sidewalks. What does one expect from $25 made in China tires.


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Old 10-19-2016, 10:03 PM   #117
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I took the GYMs off of my 2017 25FB Serenity the day after we brought it home.

This is a tremendous deal. What do you think?

http://www.airstreamclassifieds.com/...iler-take-off/.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:33 PM   #118
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My money my choice

As part of axle replacement project, today I bought 4 Michelin 235-75R15 Defender tires

And to my surprise they are marked MADE IN USA

Enough already buy what you think works for you
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:49 PM   #119
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Currently traveling across I40 to Tampa on my new Nokian 2357515 tires . Perfect so far, saved a ton a money. Rated better than anything out there. Mic drop
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:56 AM   #120
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I say blame it on Airstream Corp., they started it by putting different wheels and tires on the Eddie Bauer edition .
And really who wants a blow out at anytime. Maybe its time to put amour platted fender wells around the Airstream .
I believe this ST tire problem started 10 to 15 years ago when people were getting smacked by lousy, unreliable service from their tires thus costing several thousand dollars in damage to their trailers.

In my opinion there seems to be a lot of blame to go around for the manufacturers and the end users. The ST tire design seems to be mediocre at best and the industry states that they loose 1/3 rd of their strength after 3 years. Some folks get lousy service, others good service. The only tire company that seems to blow their own trumpet on improvements is Carlisle and the jury is still out. My trailer currently has a set of the "improved" tires but are coming up on three years in age. My first set of Carlisle tires rotted in less than two years and Carlisle replaced them for free. These updated ones are still doing ok and hold air pressure consistently. I am curious to know how the new Carlisle Radial Trail HD tire will do. http://www.carlstargroup.com/product...adial-trail-hd

I think some folks just don't think about the extra inspection that one should do on a trailer tire. These tires live a different life than our vehicle tires. Trailer tires sit around for long periods in a loaded condition. This is about the worst condition for reliability from a tire.
Last week we just returned from a 2,183 mile trip driven over 10 days with 65 to 70 mph highway speeds. This mileage is not much for some folks but considered a big trip for us. Before leaving I jacked up the trailer, laid on the ground and spun each tire checking for deformities, dry rot, nails, damage etc.... My wife thinks I am crazy for being so anal about tires. The tires made it there and back in one piece.
I will be starting the winterization process next week and part of this process is to get the weight off the tires until next camping season.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:31 AM   #121
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The only tire company that seems to blow their own trumpet on improvements is Carlisle and the jury is still out.
Maxxis has gotten some good press lately too.

http://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-1...t-radial-m8008
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Good to know about Maxxis but no one sells them near Cincinnati.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:34 AM   #123
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Actually I believe it is the opposite. The ST crowd is happy with what they have and it's the Michelin crowd who is trying to set us straight.



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I suspect that people moving to 16 inch rims and tires is because they have money to burn and they like the name Michelin.
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Not in my case, I switched to Firestone, if you don't see the need to switch, more power to you and good luck.
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Good to know about Maxxis but no one sells them near Cincinnati.
miamisburg and Dayton. Dealers there.
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