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Old 10-09-2016, 04:04 PM   #99
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Overwhelming evidence proves you wrong.
However if you prefer ST Tires don't let that stop you.
Frank, I'm aware that you and several others just can't stand the fact that everyone does not believe in your love of LT tires on trailers. You are quoting "overwhelming evidence" from the past since the problem ST tires were mostly from the mid 2000s. But hey, like I said above many owners like yourself love your 16 inch wheels and LT tires. More power to you.
I follow the overwhelming evidence of ST tires on MY trailer capable of carrying damn near 2 30 footers and run at highway speeds grater than most. Plus, silly me, I believe in the tire construction for the purpose intended. Sorry Frank, but your LT hoopla doesn't mean much to me.
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:45 PM   #100
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Moderators it is time to close current tire threads and ban new ones.


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Old 10-09-2016, 05:53 PM   #101
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:10 AM   #102
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Last week I contacted the Michelin Corporation and asked about their tire selection for our AS trailer. They responded with the following: 1. Michelin does not make an ST (trailer tire). 2. Michelin said that LT (light truck) tires should not be used on trailers. The design and materials are not suitable for trailers. Now I just have to find what is the best ST tire out there.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:12 AM   #103
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Last week I contacted the Michelin Corporation and asked about their tire selection for our AS trailer. They responded with the following: 1. Michelin does not make an ST (trailer tire). 2. Michelin said that LT (light truck) tires should not be used on trailers. The design and materials are not suitable for trailers. Now I just have to find what is the best ST tire out there.
Thanks for sharing this.
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:59 PM   #104
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Last week I contacted the Michelin Corporation and asked about their tire selection for our AS trailer. They responded with the following: 1. Michelin does not make an ST (trailer tire). 2. Michelin said that LT (light truck) tires should not be used on trailers. The design and materials are not suitable for trailers. Now I just have to find what is the best ST tire out there.
Ahh, but this is not a "trailer"; it is an "Airstream"! I hear your pain, and understand the debate...will let you know how they perform. I also was told the Michelins are not rated for travel trailers. Seems to be an awful lot of us using them with positive experiences, from what I have read. I did have 2 blow outs with Maxxis ST tires in the past; one on my Casita several years ago, and one on my 2008 AS 3 years ago. Have not had any issues with Michelins, for the record and I like the ride over the GYM's that came with the unit new. After reading this thread, I will certainly be more vigilant on how the Michelins I just purchased wear/perform and last. Thanks for all the information.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:09 AM   #105
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There is no ST tires on big trucks and trailers, we use the same tire on the steer axles as on our 3 axle trailers, and they aren't made in China, even my airstream has 16" michelins , our 1973 23' avion came with 15" car tires , they were replaced after 12 years with new car tires, never any tire problems as the trailer weighed around 6000 lbs...
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:18 AM   #106
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I find it interesting that the Michelin crowd is universally satisfied and willing to move on but the ST crowd insists on getting in the last word. This repeats itself every-time a thread is started with this subject.
Its a lawyer thing, if you cant argue the facts than just argue.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:51 AM   #107
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Hundreds of folks have read the very numerous tire treads. They have considered all the information and made their tire choices based on their interpretation of the information.

Whatever tire they selected, they have the sole responsibility for it's operation once the tire is mounted on the wheel. If the choice works, they are happy, if not they have to choose something else.

Pretty simple really. The thread posters are mostly reporting their personal experiences so others can infer what they wish about the information.

Not everyone on the Airforums started with an Airstream product. Through trial and error of determining what they liked and disliked in their RV experience, they came to the conclusion that an Airstream would serve their "needs". The total population of existing Airstreams pales in size when compared to the entire universe of RV choices offered every year.

We bought the wrong model Airstream for us with the first one (2013 25FB International Serenity) as our first RV. We elected to try a different model and are very happy with the 2014 Classic and even added a smaller 2015 23D International Serenity as well. So we are not converted from other brands.

There are folks that have moved away from Airstreams to some other brand as well.

The basic point is we all make choices and get to live with the results.

I did put the 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on both the 2013 25FB International Serenity and the 2015 23D International Serenity (upgrading from the 14 tires and wheels that were factory discontinued in the 2016 models) and had no issues.

We have made many changes to both Airstreams we currently own that are "improvements" to us that also include switching tire brand. We are pleased with all of the results to date. We change things if we do not like the result to make our RV experience better.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:55 AM   #108
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Its a lawyer thing, if you cant argue the facts than just argue.
Don't forget there is The Argue Thread for anyone who wants to put the pedal down!

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Old 10-11-2016, 02:25 PM   #109
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Lmao :-)

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Don't forget there is The Argue Thread for anyone who wants to put the pedal down!

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Good one! I don't need to go to that thread to upset anyone and get into an argument...I have found that all one need do is try a post about a Blue Ox hitch while on the Equalizer thread...LOL!
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I love this place! When I see a thread started about tow vehicles, tires, or hitches, I know I'm in for several hours of entertaining reading...
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I find it interesting that the Michelin crowd is universally satisfied and willing to move on but the ST crowd insists on getting in the last word. This repeats itself every-time a thread is started with this subject.
Its a lawyer thing, if you cant argue the facts than just argue.
Actually I believe it is the opposite. The ST crowd is happy with what they have and it's the Michelin crowd who is trying to set us straight.



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Actually I believe it is the opposite. The ST crowd is happy with what they have and it's the Michelin crowd who is trying to set us straight.
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I say blame it on Airstream Corp., they started it by putting different wheels and tires on the Eddie Bauer edition .
And really who wants a blow out at anytime. Maybe its time to put amour platted fender wells around the Airstream .
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