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Old 10-20-2016, 07:31 AM   #121
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The only tire company that seems to blow their own trumpet on improvements is Carlisle and the jury is still out.
Maxxis has gotten some good press lately too.

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Old 10-20-2016, 07:44 AM   #122
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Good to know about Maxxis but no one sells them near Cincinnati.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:34 AM   #123
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Actually I believe it is the opposite. The ST crowd is happy with what they have and it's the Michelin crowd who is trying to set us straight.



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Old 10-20-2016, 12:05 PM   #124
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I suspect that people moving to 16 inch rims and tires is because they have money to burn and they like the name Michelin.
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:10 PM   #125
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Not in my case, I switched to Firestone, if you don't see the need to switch, more power to you and good luck.
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Good to know about Maxxis but no one sells them near Cincinnati.
miamisburg and Dayton. Dealers there.
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:24 PM   #127
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miamisburg and Dayton. Dealers there.
I'm on the south side of town (good side), none to be found nearby. If I purchase new tires I want them to be a common tire that is easily found when on the road in case one goes bad and can be easily matched. Besides my local tire dealer gives me a good enough price and service to keep coming back.
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Old 10-20-2016, 10:49 PM   #128
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I suspect that people moving to 16 inch rims and tires is because they have money to burn and they like the name Michelin.
Yes I saved my money by buying the best I could afford, it turns out to be the cheapest,that is one savings, another is no damage to my airstream or my vehicles, the marathons are around 125 and the 16" michelins 175, and no worries....no such thing as too much money or too much horsepower....
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Yup. Exactly. I'd rather spend a little up front, then not have to worry later.

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Michelin update- Std equipment on new Classic models.

I may be slipping a bit on news, but I picked up the 2017 "full" AS trailer catalog yesterday, and was looking at the new 30' and 33' Classic model equipment list. I noticed they come standard with Michelin 225/75/16 LT tires come standard on those models now. Guess that pretty much settles the argument about "LT" not being proper for an AS in previous posts; or does it?
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I may be slipping a bit on news, but I picked up the 2017 "full" AS trailer catalog yesterday, and was looking at the new 30' and 33' Classic model equipment list. I noticed they come standard with Michelin 225/75/16 LT tires come standard on those models now. Guess that pretty much settles the argument about "LT" not being proper for an AS in previous posts; or does it?
They are fine,big trucks don't have st tires on the trailers, we use steer tires...I sure like my 16" michelins...
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:01 AM   #132
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The 16" Michelins were installed on the Eddie Bauer models back in 2012 and perhaps earlier. There was a 16" Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 tire and SenDel T03-66655T wheel on display as one entered the Airstream customer service center in October of 2012, which was my first visit. They would install them on any 25' or longer wide body trailer. They became standard on the 2015 and later Classics and on the limited and expensive Pendleton successor to the Eddie Bauer.

However, the new Tommy Bahama limited and expensive model has a 200 pound lower GVW (7,600 pounds) so they cheapened this premium price limited edition with the usual 15" GYM ST225/75R15D tires. How really lame!
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4-1/2 Years with Michelin LTX's

Have run P235/75r15 Michelin LTX XL's for 4-1/2 years of full-time Airstreaming with our 1966 Tradewind. Although very pleased with wear and performance over the road, they seem more prone to feathering wear (due to side slippage on a trailer) than trailer tires. I imagine the sidewall flex may be to blame, and a tire with higher ply rating might not have this. Note that this only became noticeable after 10-15k miles.
With about 5 years since installation, these tires are far from wearing out, but are just starting to show signs of weathering.
These tires were chosen (back when we were preparing for full-timing) as the same tire could also fit our tow vehicle (1969 Chevy C-10.) This allowed us to carry just one spare.
Will likely replace with similar Michelins.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:32 AM   #134
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I may be slipping a bit on news, but I picked up the 2017 "full" AS trailer catalog yesterday, and was looking at the new 30' and 33' Classic model equipment list. I noticed they come standard with Michelin 225/75/16 LT tires come standard on those models now. Guess that pretty much settles the argument about "LT" not being proper for an AS in previous posts; or does it?
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The 30 foot and 33 foot Airsteams are considered... Trucks, by Airstream.

The 25 foot to 30 foot are considered 'short bed trucks' and can go either way.

I cannot think of any other reason.
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My guess the 30' and up had to many GYM failures reported. Perhaps a few angry customers demanded they fix the damage caused by tread separation on their new trailers. I am sure it is based on money/risk ratio not just because they are better for the customer.


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15" Michelin tires recommended?

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I may be slipping a bit on news, but I picked up the 2017 "full" AS trailer catalog yesterday, and was looking at the new 30' and 33' Classic model equipment list. I noticed they come standard with Michelin 225/75/16 LT tires come standard on those models now. Guess that pretty much settles the argument about "LT" not being proper for an AS in previous posts; or does it?

Did they modify the suspension? What changes did they make compared to prior years? Mine is 2004. Changing tires to what they show in the 2017 catalog is wrong.
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Did they modify the suspension? What changes did they make compared to prior years? Mine is 2004. Changing tires to what they show in the 2017 catalog is wrong.
Why is it wrong? I changed my 13 31' classic to 16" Michelin and alls well...it is the same as the 04 30' classic...
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Interesting, the new 33' Classic is still two axles like the 31' Classic and both have a GVW of 10,000 pounds. Despite some folks comments about tongue weight being under 1,000 pounds, the 33' starts with a literature tongue weight of 1,175 pounds before the hitch head. With front queen or twins with storage underneath and a Hensley or ProPride hitch head, there will be quite the challenge to keep the tongue weight under 1,375 pounds.

Most factory pickup hitches are rated 1,200 pounds. The tongue weight on our 2013 25FB International Serenity was 1,175 pounds camping ready. We cut off the stock receiver rated 1,200 pounds on our 2013 Ram 2500HD Cummins and replaced it with a Curt 15049 receiver rated for a 2,550 pound tongue weight and 17,000 pound trailer.

This will probably be too much tongue weight for the Ford 150 crowd.

At least the Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 rated 2,680 pounds @ 80 psi are rated for the higher empty weight of 8,261 pounds per the literature (the 31' has a 7,365 pound literature empty weight) which is the minimum.
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Did they modify the suspension? What changes did they make compared to prior years? Mine is 2004. Changing tires to what they show in the 2017 catalog is wrong.
OK; I'll bite: What is "wrong" with swapping out the tires on your 04' rig to 16" wheels and Michelin tires? I hope your not offended, but many of us have made this switch and are happy. If AS is offering as an "option" now as many have said, not sure the issue? But, we are interested to know what we may be missing?
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