Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Restoration, Repair & Parts Forums > Running Gear - Axles, Brakes, Wheels & Tires > Axles
Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-10-2006, 04:08 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
1980 28' Excella II
bainbridge island , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11
axles

Hello Andy: I have worn torsion bars on 28` excella. Will new axles fix my problem of all tires rubbing against inner wheel wells?
thanks, jerry
woodnhair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 04:39 PM   #2
Just an old timer...
 
85MH325's Avatar

 
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
Images: 37
Jerry, what do you mean by "inner wheel well"? If the tire sidewalls are rubbing on the inside of the wheelwell toward the interior of the coach, then the tires you have on are too wide for your particular coach, and need to be switched off for narrower tires. If the tread is rubbing on the top of the wheel well, then an axle replacement is definately in order provided that the tires you have are stock size and height. You can usually tell whether or not an axle is worn out by the amount of tire sidewall visible between the top of the wheel rim and the bottom of the wheel well trim. There should be at least a couple of inches of sidewall showing. More is better.

Roger
__________________
havin' to fix my broken Airstreams since 1987...
AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
85MH325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 05:52 PM   #3
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
Images: 1
Woodnhair

Our computers have been down for 2 weeks, and they quite well may be down for another week.

If the rubber rods in your axles have deteriorated, that in itself will not cause the tires to rub on the wheel wells.

What size tires are on your Airstream? What year is your Airstream?

Andy
__________________
Andy Rogozinski
Inland RV Center
Corona, CA
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2006, 12:30 PM   #4
1 Rivet Member
 
1980 28' Excella II
bainbridge island , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11
worn torsion bars?

I LOVE this forum, what a great community. Coach is 28`1980 excella.tires are rubbing near top just an inch below where tread starts. tires are st225x15 marathons.wheels are 6" with 0 offset. Torsion bars are horizontal or pointed up a little looking to rear. I`m sure the coach will ride a little higher with new axles but hard to imagine enough to give 2 or 3 " clearance.
thanks,jerry
woodnhair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2006, 04:01 PM   #5
4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
 
Currently Looking...
Somewhere , Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 432
It is true!

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodnhair
Torsion bars are horizontal or pointed up a little looking to rear. I`m sure the coach will ride a little higher with new axles but hard to imagine enough to give 2 or 3 " clearance.
thanks,jerry
Jerry,

It can gain you 2 or 3" - truly!

See:
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1080235/f/Torfl...ation_4-04.pdf

Look at the #10 axle.

Regards,
Henry
axleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2006, 10:13 PM   #6
1 Rivet Member
 
1980 28' Excella II
bainbridge island , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11
I am talking about 2 or 3 " clearance on the inside of the tire, not the top, which would help also.
what's the difference between the dexter and hunschen axles?
Is it possible I have a pair of short axles????
jerry
woodnhair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 07:10 AM   #7
uwe
418
 
uwe's Avatar
 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley , California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
Images: 41
Send a message via Skype™ to uwe
Jerry,
Did you buy this coach new?
Perhaps someone installed axles with a wrong hub face dimension before.
It would help tremendously if you could post some photos.
Also, do the axle tubes have a slight bend in the center? If not, then there's no camber for the wheels, which means they could possibly rub at the top if the clearance is wrong in the first place, and the coach is loaded down.
If you do replace axles, then please go to a specialist with this one. Buying the exact same axles again will give you the exact same problem, in all likelyhood. If not right away, then soon enough.
We need to see pictures of where the tire rubs, from both the tire inside, and the rub mark on the inner wheel well. Also, of the torsion arm and frame, and of the other side with the tires on, to see how far inside the tires sit. Then, a shot of the area of the axle mounting plate where the axle mounting bolts are.
Sounds to me more and more that at some point there was an unscheduled axle job donw, perhaps with the wrong axles.
__________________
Uwe
www.area63productions.com
uwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 11:12 AM   #8
1 Rivet Member
 
1980 28' Excella II
bainbridge island , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11
Ewe: Bought trailer in Tucson in april '05. Owner deceased. Had axles bent last mo. and also re-alighned.
Have never sent photos but will try.
jerry
woodnhair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 12:21 PM   #9
4 Rivet Member
 
steelbird312's Avatar
 
2013 31' Classic
Crossville , Tennessee
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 461
Images: 11
Jerry,
Just last week, I helped a friend (on this forum) put new axles on his '70 Overlander. I am not positive if your dimensions are the same as his as you did not post the year model of your trailer, or I missed it; his dimensions were as follows. Hub face to Hub face, is 79 7/16". The mounting brackets welded to the axles ar 61 1/8". These dimensions gave him beautiful clearance front to back and inside to outside. He used Dexter axles for two reasons. Dexter has a place 35 miles from our home, and the cost was right at half what they would be buying Henschens from the supplier. He useda #11 with a #3700lb rating so as to receive the 12 inch brakes/drums. Heused the 22.5 degree down on the start angle. It sits up nice and pretty now.
Not trying to talk you into anything, just telling you what he did and the results.
__________________
steelbird312 WBCCI #6673 jerry Hodge
2013 31" Classic limited
Have no intention of arriving at the grave safely, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, throttle in the other, totally worn out and screaming
"WOO HOO, WHAT A RIDE!"
steelbird312 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 03:50 PM   #10
4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
 
Currently Looking...
Somewhere , Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 432
A lot of $$$$

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodnhair
what's the difference between the dexter and hunschen axles?
jerry
Jerry,

Henschen axle $800.00 each + shipping + packaging

Dexter axle $350-$450 each + shipping (no packaging)

Do the math and the Dexter is about $350+ less expensive. Is the quality of the Henschen worth it? Airstream doesn't seem to think so, as they now use Dexter. The choice is yours!

Just two cents from a RETIRED axle man!

Regards,
Henry
axleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 06:05 PM   #11
1 Rivet Member
 
1980 28' Excella II
bainbridge island , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11
Thanks gang: Interesting numbers for axle length,,,,,will check mine. waiting for decent light to take some pics of wheel wells and axles. It's raining like mad here in western washington.
Steelbird................coach is 28' 1980 excella
woodnhair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 03:58 PM   #12
Moderator dude
 
Action's Avatar

 
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,510
Images: 13
Hang in there Jerry. The rain will stop soon. I've seen some news on the rainn and you sure have gotten more than normal. Wish you could send some here.

Anyway, do be accurate in all of your measurements. I may also suggest upping the weight carrying ability for the new axles if you get new ones. Not by much maybe by 10% from the old rating.

Henschen was the original equippment for your unit. And it is your unit so if you want to keep the same manufacture or change that is totally up to you. Just feel comfortable in your decision.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action
__________________
1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
Action is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 09:55 PM   #13
4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
 
Currently Looking...
Somewhere , Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 432
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodnhair
I am talking about 2 or 3 " clearance on the inside of the tire, not the top, which would help also.
what's the difference between the dexter and hunschen axles?
Is it possible I have a pair of short axles????
jerry
Jerry,

I thought you said earlier (in post #4) that "new axles would make the unit ride higher" - I thought that you were indicating up and down with the word "higher" - not side to side - my mistake!

Henry
axleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Restoring Torsion Arm/Axle Resiliency Happycamper Axles 15 06-08-2018 05:12 AM
Reese Dual Cam Trunnion Bars dscluchfc Hitches, Couplers & Balls 17 04-21-2005 05:52 AM
1974 Excella front window docu post john hd 1973-1974 Excella 500 22 08-06-2004 01:53 PM
Axle replacement question-are they really worn out? oldvws Axles 1 12-30-2002 08:04 AM
proper rivet gun for AS oldvws Ribs, Skins & Rivets 12 11-23-2002 09:04 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.