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02-19-2012, 05:43 PM
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Noob
2009 22' Sport
Columbus
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Which axle?
Remember the old show, To Tell the Truth?
#1: My name is Dexter Axle.
#2: My name is Dexter Axle.
#3: My name is Dexter Axle.
I called JC, they told me one rating for my axle. The sticker on the door states something different. The only thing I can find on the Internet is for a 3rd rating still.
The axle number is 410875-24. It was manufactured in 2007, and is on my 2009 model. Anyone know the true rating? (And like your favorite professor would say, "cite your source".)
In advance, thanks!
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02-19-2012, 05:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Did you look on the VIN sticker?
Perry
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02-19-2012, 05:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Call Dexter (if you're sure it is a Dexter). They, in my own experience seem to be the only accurate records keeper. Is there a white label still visible on your axle? When I called them, that sticker was the definitive information source. With that info they quickly told me what I had, down to every optional component.
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02-19-2012, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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This is what that label looks like:
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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02-19-2012, 05:58 PM
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Noob
2009 22' Sport
Columbus
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Yep, white label is still there. 410875-24 is the big number on the bottom. Or, should I be looking at a different number on the label?
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02-19-2012, 06:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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When I called the order # seemed important as well as the part # you listed.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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02-19-2012, 06:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzDad
Remember the old show, To Tell the Truth?
#1: My name is Dexter Axle.
#2: My name is Dexter Axle.
#3: My name is Dexter Axle.
I called JC, they told me one rating for my axle. The sticker on the door states something different. The only thing I can find on the Internet is for a 3rd rating still.
The axle number is 410875-24. It was manufactured in 2007, and is on my 2009 model. Anyone know the true rating? (And like your favorite professor would say, "cite your source".)
In advance, thanks!
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I can answer your question, but not until tomorrow.
Andy
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02-19-2012, 06:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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The problem is, Dexter builds custom rated axles for OEM manufacturers. In my case, when I look at their website for parts, I would deduce I have a 6000lb axle.
All the metal components ARE INDEED for a 6000# axle. When AS spec'ed their needs, Dexter put in shorter torsion rubbers, in effect de-rating my axles to 5000#.
I think that is where a lot of the confusion comes from/
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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02-20-2012, 07:32 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Most component manufacturers will do that for a industry partner. You want it to this spec. OK just order a couple thousand of them and you can have it anyway you want it.
When it needs to be replaced it may not be available as a one off build.
The automotive shock industry is like that. Even down to painting it any color you want with a sticker or label any way you want it.
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02-21-2012, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzDad
Remember the old show, To Tell the Truth?
#1: My name is Dexter Axle.
#2: My name is Dexter Axle.
#3: My name is Dexter Axle.
I called JC, they told me one rating for my axle. The sticker on the door states something different. The only thing I can find on the Internet is for a 3rd rating still.
The axle number is 410875-24. It was manufactured in 2007, and is on my 2009 model. Anyone know the true rating? (And like your favorite professor would say, "cite your source".)
In advance, thanks!
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The 410875-24 axle is rated at 5000 pounds and comes with disc brakes, and never lube hubs.
The 410875-17 axle is rated at 4500 pounds and was used on the "Sports" model.
Andy
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02-21-2012, 02:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
The 410875-24 axle is rated at 5000 pounds and comes with disc brakes, and never lube hubs.
The 410875-17 axle is rated at 4500 pounds and was used on the "Sports" model.
Andy
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Not according to Dexter...unless you reversed the model #s. Mine is the post above (410875-17); 30' Classic with nevr-lubes and disc brakes. Dexter said it was a 5000# axle?????
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02-21-2012, 04:50 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Not according to Dexter...unless you reversed the model #s. Mine is the post above (410875-17); 30' Classic with nevr-lubes and disc brakes. Dexter said it was a 5000# axle?????
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I am going by what Airstream has published on it's dealer site.
If that is wrong, then perhaps you could call them and tell them so. We don't have either of those axles on hand, therefore I cannot challenge what they published.
Andy
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02-21-2012, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Do you show a 410875-17 at 4500#s with discs and Nevr-lube? If no, then something's screwy.
Jazzdad says his label shows 410875-24 and he has a 22 Sport. Do Sports have a discs or drums? Is Nevr-Lube an option on Sports?
My label says 410873-17 and I have a Classic with discs and Nevr-lubes.
It's been awhile....maybe that's what drove me to call Dexter....the label confusion, I mean.
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02-22-2012, 09:01 AM
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Noob
2009 22' Sport
Columbus
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Thanks to all.
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02-22-2012, 09:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzDad
Thanks to all.
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Now I'm confused...Jazz, do you have discs or drums? Nevr-lube hubs?
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02-22-2012, 03:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Do you show a 410875-17 at 4500#s with discs and Nevr-lube? If no, then something's screwy.
Jazzdad says his label shows 410875-24 and he has a 22 Sport. Do Sports have a discs or drums? Is Nevr-Lube an option on Sports?
My label says 410873-17 and I have a Classic with discs and Nevr-lubes.
It's been awhile....maybe that's what drove me to call Dexter....the label confusion, I mean.
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Airstreams dealer parts list says 410875-17 is 5000 pounds with disc brakes and never lubes.
In Airstreams "where used" list it says 4500 pounds, etc.
I will make them aware of the error.
Andy
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02-22-2012, 04:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Thanks, Andy. In my end of the business, I've seen enough of these types of errors that my radar automatically goes nuts!
Thanks for your efforts.
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02-23-2012, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Axle information
Received the following from Airstream.
"Per their engineering print, 410875-24 is rated at 4500 pounds and 410875-17 is rated at 5000 pounds."
Andy
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02-23-2012, 02:06 PM
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Noob
2009 22' Sport
Columbus
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 72
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Wow, how confusing.
Now I'm trying to spec my hitch bar and coupler ball. The printed material from AS on this unit states the top of the ball should be 17.25" for the trailer to be level. I have it sitting on a level concrete slab. I have verified the trailer is level, via a torpedo level on the A frame. I measure from the slab to the highest point inside of the coupler and get 15.5". I want to go with the empirical evidence, but how can the manufacturer's literature be so different? (No smilie.)
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02-23-2012, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzDad
Wow, how confusing.
Now I'm trying to spec my hitch bar and coupler ball. The printed material from AS on this unit states the top of the ball should be 17.25" for the trailer to be level. I have it sitting on a level concrete slab. I have verified the trailer is level, via a torpedo level on the A frame. I measure from the slab to the highest point inside of the coupler and get 15.5". I want to go with the empirical evidence, but how can the manufacturer's literature be so different? (No smilie.)
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Torsion axles are weight sensitive.
Because the rubber rods act as springs, they too can in time, fail to a small or large degree.
Airstreams published ball height is for an empty tailer, with zero payload, at time of manufacture.
As you load the trailer, the ball height will lower. As the axles age, the ball height will lower.
The "ONLY" correct ball height is your trailer.
Measure it loaded for travel and that's what it is. In time, it will slightly become lower and lower, again, because of the rubber rods.
The rubber rods also can go bad, if they are not exercise every year or so.
Parking long term, is a sure fire way to kill the rubber rods, on any brand torsion axle.
Happy Airstreaming.
Andy
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