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Old 01-10-2004, 12:53 AM   #1
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Hi, I recently purchased a 52 Flying Cloud and I have a question. I tried to do a "search" in case I'm asking a question that has been asked a hundred times and because I don't know the correct terminology I'm not having any success . . .

So here's question my trailer has an axle/wheel system where the wheel is sort of like a bicycle wheel without the spokes. It's attached to the axle or the rest of the wheel with bolts that appear to have "friction tabs"(?) that "grab" onto the rim.

My questions are, was this the stock set up (I'm guessing - No) and if not why would someone change to this set up - is it an "upgrade" of somekind? Is there a reason I should get rid of it (as far as safety/performance issues)? And what would be involved in "getting rid of it"?

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Old 01-10-2004, 06:19 AM   #2
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Mark, that looks like a standard "house trailer" wheel, as we call them here. They are used in a lot of heavy duty applications.
Nothing wrong with them. You can get some pretty stout tires for those wheels. As long as the brakes work, don't worry about it. Check your DOT labels on the tires to make sure they are not old tires.

I had no problems getting tires, I have a utility trailer with those same wheels on it. Wheels are no problem either.
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:49 AM   #3
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So you're saying it was an "upgrade" . . . kind of?

Any possibility that I could find Hub Caps that would fit?

Tires have manufacture dates on them?

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That wheel is very popular on "mobile homes".

They are intended for very short distances, certainly not several hundred miles in a day or two.

Try balancing one, it's near impossible.

You can almost say that they are intended for a "one time use", namely moving a mobile home to a park, then taking them off.

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Mark -- How old are my tires? should help you.
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Old 01-10-2004, 11:35 AM   #6
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So you're saying it was an "upgrade" . . . kind of?

Any possibility that I could find Hub Caps that would fit?

Tires have manufacture dates on them?

Thanks, Mark
Mark, it was a downwards upgrade...
These wheels and axles are used like Andy says, under mobile homes. They are also used under utility trailers, and even flatbed equipment trailers, such as would carry backhoes and buckets loaders. The "up" part of this is these wheel/axles will carry all kinds of weight, the "down" part is, it will shake the living crap out of an Airstream. I have seen similar axles under a few SOB trailers, all had loose/broken fittings and furnishings. It would be a good idea to get an axle/wheel assembly of the proper configuration and weight rating under you unit as soon as practicable.
You have a different axle problem from most of us.
If you ask him real nice, Andy from Inland (above post) would probably be happy to help you with the proper axle and wheel setup for your trailer.
As far as manufacture dates on tires, all passenger car size tires are required to contain , among other things, the company and place of manufacture, and the last three or four digits are a date code, as in week, week, year, year. So, a tire with this code of 5101 would have been manufactured in the 51st week of 2001.
And, even though you didn't ask, the tire wear rating, when multiplied by 2000, will give you an indication of about how long in miles a tire can be expected to last. A tire with a wear rating of 200 SHOULD last about 40,000 miles, with proper maintenance.
The tire shown in your photo is considered a commercial tire, and probably will not have either of these.
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Scrap that mess. Then find and slap the person that carved up your wheel wells.

This is the styule axle your coach should have. This one is ratet more then you need. You coach needs a 4-4.5k rated 6 on5.5 axle with electric brake. This would work and not a bad deal at under $300 WITH brakes.
http://www.etrailerpart.com/52kdroptraileraxle.htm
At that price I'm contemplating replacing my axle just so I know It's good.

A lot of us are going with aluminum wheels simular to thos used on newer coaches. The outlawII made by American racing it pretty close to the factory availbel wheels many years and fairly inexpensive. Just make sure the wheel is rated high enough. For your coach 2500lb will be adiquate and pretty standard rating for an American Racing Brand rim. Just watch out for cheap knock off's.

I'll be updating my rims to the mag and I will probably sell the stock 1 peice steel rims with hubcaps. They need restoration and the caps will need work and to be rechromed.
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Slap that guy

Ditto what '59Toaster said . . .
But get the axle direct from either Dexter
or Reliable
You can order any size, shape, configuration. Bur be sure you measure the spring centers and hub faces accurately. No returns.
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