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Old 08-15-2003, 06:03 AM   #15
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Short story, my son worked at a garage changing tires. One day after he and his go worker moved away from truck they were working on the lugs came off and went through the metal building,accross the road, and hit a concrete buiding on the other side. They used cages from then on always.

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Old 08-15-2003, 07:34 AM   #16
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Hi Mark - always glad to hear of another '59 TradeWind owner out there. My TradeWind had the split rims when I bought it. I had new tires and rims with me when we picked it up. I am surprised that your unit has 6 volt brakes. I've not heard of that and I have seen quite a few '59 Airstreams.

I would really enjoy seeing more photos of your A/S. Is it a CA or OH model? PM me if you care to exchange info and photos. Thanks.

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Old 08-15-2003, 08:57 AM   #17
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Split rims. I am not sure now if the rims on our 59 are original or not. They are not split and they loot just like the above picture. THey are 14.5 inch size so they are coming off as a result. THink I'll put a set of OutlawII rims on it to snaz it up.

The 6v and 12 V is also perpelxing. I just figured that our had been converted but now I don't think so. all the fans are 12v and appear orignal to the unit.

Maybe this was close to when they changed over. Our unit is a Ohio built. I recall FF saying his was California. Maybe callifornia was still using split in 59 and Ohio changed over to the 1 peice. From what I can tell there were a lot of varaition in what the two plants were doing in the late 50's.

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If you look at the top picture you will notice no rear trunk. If you look towards the bottom you will see one with a truck. THe top one is VERY close to mine other then it's missing the water heater on the street side rear behind the storage door.
I bet that is a OHIO. The one towrds the bottom also has upper marker lights that the top doesn't. Wheel openings are different as well. I bet that's a Cali.


The two factories were deffinatly not on the same page durring that time frame.
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Old 08-15-2003, 09:33 AM   #18
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Reply to 59Toaster: Agree with your analysis, my unit looks like the top set of pics, with no trunk and canted wheel wells. Ohio factory. All the interior fittings are 12V, the brakes are 6V. The original Kelsey Hayes controller had a large var. resistor to be mounted on the firewall of the tow vehicle. Interestingly, there was a factory original battery box on the bow, just under the window, that looks like it fitted two- 6V batteries mounted end to end.
I think the OutlawII rims are a great idea.
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Reply to 59Toaster: Agree with your analysis, my unit looks like the top set of pics, with no trunk and canted wheel wells. Ohio factory. All the interior fittings are 12V, the brakes are 6V. The original Kelsey Hayes controller had a large var. resistor to be mounted on the firewall of the tow vehicle. Interestingly, there was a factory original battery box on the bow, just under the window, that looks like it fitted two- 6V batteries mounted end to end.
I think the OutlawII rims are a great idea.
Yeah ours has/had that same battery box but it's butcherd now. Somebody took it apart and rebent it to fit a modern 12v. Missing the lid as well. I'm relocation the battery down between the frame rails like you have and removing the box completly. I may end up having to replace that whole pannel if it's too coroded to sand smooth.
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Don't think split rims were used.
Our '64, CA made, GlobeTrotter had split rings until we replaced them last year...pretty sure they were original.

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It's starting to sound like CA built units had split rims later than the Ohio built units? Admittedly the sample size is small.
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My 61 Overlander has the same battery box under the front window, all the electical circuits are 12v. There is an interstate battery in current production that fits perfectly. Mike
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Battery box

Thanks 61 Overlander. Do you happen to know the model number? Only one I find is the SC61, which is a 6volt.
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Interstate Battery 3EEVHD, called Workhorse I think. I found it on another board posting, it's still in stock, just had mine ordered thru my mechanic and it fit perfectly. Now on to finding the short in the brake circuit. We replaced the umbilical, rewired it to accept teh standard 7 pin plug, but have a short in somewhere between the junction and the axles. We'll try pulling a new wire thru, but I'm against pulling the belly pan. Guess the last resort is gonna be a new wires in conduit. Mike
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Brake wires

Biggest problem I've had is re-wiring the 7pin each time I hook up a new tow vehicle. Finally opened the access panel and today plan to rewire the connections at the source so that they are ASME standard. Does yours have a green wire inside a red jacket for the brakes? If anyone has wire routing diagrams I would appreciate seeing them.
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Would I ever love to see those wiring diagrams. However they apparently don't exist for our vintage trailers. We are finding some interesting old time wiring techniques. One, once past the junction box at the front, there is no rhyme or reason to the color of the wire. Seems they just used whatever color was handy and available that day. On mine, the electrician used a knotting method to differentiate his circuits. Some red wires had one knot , other had two knots, and one had 3 knots. Kinda reminds me of my Grandfather, an electician that retired in 1960, when he rewired our house, it was safe, but no one could figure out what the hell he had done. For years my dad was looking to the heavens, saying, "ok, Nick, where the hell does this circuit go?"
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I have scan of the original wiring diagram using a 6way plug. PM me with your e-mail address, file is to big for posting on this forum.
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Old 08-16-2003, 06:22 PM   #28
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6V brakes?

I have watched this thread and then it dawned on me. Car makers didn't produce 6V cars in 1959. Ford stopped in 1956 and GM had stopped before that time.

So the question is why would Airstream install 6V brakes in 1959? Unless a PO converted 12v brakes to 6V and used a 12 V battery for the house.

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