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Old 02-13-2010, 07:47 PM   #15
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I did not know I could get a shock bracket from Dexter. Have heard the shocks really don't do a lot, especially with tandem, so did not deal with it. Maybe if they have to remake the axles I can have them add it. Shock mount option is not on Dexter's order form, so I'm not sure how I would get it oriented exactly as needed.
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:24 PM   #16
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I did not know I could get a shock bracket from Dexter. Have heard the shocks really don't do a lot, especially with tandem, so did not deal with it. Maybe if they have to remake the axles I can have them add it. Shock mount option is not on Dexter's order form, so I'm not sure how I would get it oriented exactly as needed.
In Dexter language it's called "Top Shock Brackets per E-1501"
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:37 AM   #18
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You know your trailer had 12" brakes, why the change to 10"? and yes your braket is facing the wrong way.
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Got around to readying my axles for install, I think I did not get what I ordered. You that are in the know, can you let me know if this is a low profile reverse mount? Thanks!
It looks like you have a "high" profile mount, as it appears that the axle has a starting angle of 45 degrees.

What weight rating did you receive?

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2800# axle rating and 32 degree down angle
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:50 AM   #21
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2800# axle rating and 32 degree down angle
Is your trailer a single or double axle? 2800 is a bit light for a single axle, and if you have a double, the axles should be replaced in pairs, unless you recently replaced the other one.
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You know your trailer had 12" brakes, why the change to 10"? .
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This question has already been covered ad nauseum in other threads. There are strong opinions on both sides of the fence.

My .02 is 10" brakes on Dexters work just fine for my Tradewind. The brakes on a full size p/u would also be a plus for stopping power. I would go with 12" brakes on a Sovereign and maybe an Ambassador or Overlander.
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:28 PM   #23
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Is your trailer a single or double axle? 2800 is a bit light for a single axle, and if you have a double, the axles should be replaced in pairs, unless you recently replaced the other one.
My trailer is a tandem and I have 2 new 2800# Dexter axles. Unfortunately the mounts were not reversed as ordered.
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My trailer is a tandem and I have 2 new 2800# Dexter axles. Unfortunately the mounts were not reversed as ordered.
A better weight rating would have been 3000 pounds and if you like to travel a little on the heavy side, 3200 pounds would have worked even better.

You can remove the shock brackets from the old axles and install them on the new axles.

I would not "EVER" suggested that you down grade the brakes to 10 inch.

That reduces your braking stopping power, and it will further reduce from that, as miles accumulate on the brakes as they will progressively become more and more out of adjustment.

Of course the "out of adjustment" does not apply to the new style "self adjusting" electric brakes.

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My trailer is a tandem and I have 2 new 2800# Dexter axles. Unfortunately the mounts were not reversed as ordered.
I forgot to add, that if you try to take the axle mounting brackets off with heat from a torch, the rubber rods will be destroyed.

You could cut the mounting brackets off with a fine grinder, however, the brackets would have to be welded back in place, which again will ruin the rubber rods.

The correct mounting plate outer dimension for your trailer is 57 7/8 inches.

Before you go too far with the project, what is the hub face to hub face dimension?

It looks like there is an excessive space between the axle mounting plate and the torsion arm.

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This question has already been covered ad nauseum in other threads. There are strong opinions on both sides of the fence.

My .02 is 10" brakes on Dexters work just fine for my Tradewind. The brakes on a full size p/u would also be a plus for stopping power. I would go with 12" brakes on a Sovereign and maybe an Ambassador or Overlander.
Brake size, typically, is not so much of a concern, when everything is working OK.

But, and as an example, if for whatever reason your tow vehicle brakes failed, and they do, not often, but they do fail, then the 10 inch brakes don't stand a chance to stop your entire rig, fast enough, since typically you would be caught off guard about the failure.

That's where the 12 inch brakes really show their stuff.

It's also a matter, and personal choice, as to how many back up's does a person feel comfortable with.

Some folks don't want any, as it's usually a waste of money for them, and many folks want as many backups and reserves that's practical. Safety to some people is very important.

Down grading the size of brakes when replacing axles, is, in most circles, not a good idea. Upgrading whenever possible, is a great idea.

The brakes cost the same on a new axle, be it 10 or 12 inch, so why down grade?

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Thanks Andy, 57 7/8" is the exact measurement I came up with and gave Dexter. I have the hub face at 77". Haven't checked the Dexters but will when my wife can help. Thing is I hauled my original axle to the Dexter dealer so that I would know the right axle was ordered. Wrong! I didn't downgrade on the brake intentionally, I believe it was a minimum of 3500# axle before you could get the 12" brakes. The brakes issue and has been well debated and discussed here on the forums. If $$$ were not an issue I would have bought Henschens with disc brakes. I know there should not be a price on safety but from my research the extra risk vs. $$$ from going to 10" brakes especially on a tandem was worth it to me. The original axles on my trailer were 2600# and I upgraded to 2800# I feel this will work well for me, but then again what I know has been obtained from research not practical knowledge. I try to make good decisions. I appreciate all opinions and feedback.
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10"? 12"?

Okay, so Jackson Center is installing Dexters on virtually everything new coming down the line. Right or wrong?

I had read something about tougher Canadian licensing specs only being satisfied by Dexters. So ... is the factory installing Dexters with 10" drums? Good enough for them?

Anyhoo... I'll still take the smartest tranny in the world for slowing my downhill descents.

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