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01-08-2011, 07:03 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
Adel
, Iowa
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
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To replace or not to replace the axles
I have a 1969 Airstream Overlander and I am wondering if I need to know how important it is to replace the axles?
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01-08-2011, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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very important! There are many threads on this but an old axle basically eliminates your suspension, so going down the road just beats the tar out of your interior, windows, doors, appliances, stuff, not to mention the shell etc. It is an expensive project, we did it on our 69 25'. You'll love the added ground clearance in the back especially. It will tow better, safer brakes, peace of mind that your bearings are good etc. Definately worth doing.
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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01-08-2011, 08:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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You will also have tires that will hold up a lot longer,now the only suspension you have is the tires flexing. Dave
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01-08-2011, 09:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,564
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My 68 TW had exactly ZERO suspension, none, the axles did not move. I can't imagine going to all the expense and work of redoing a vintage Airstream without replacing the axles. By the way, the cost of the axles will be a small part of the total expense. If you are going to be taking a while to redo the trailer, you don't have to do the axles first, but you will want to before you tow it.
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2001 Toyota Tundra
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01-08-2011, 09:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 22' Safari
Staunton
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 71
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If it's even in question at all, replace the axle(s). I put a crack in my frame because my axle was frozen in a position that made it look like it was in good shape. There were the usual signs ahead of time, like things bouncing out of shelves, cabinet doors getting mis-aligned- I just didn't know why it was happening, as I wasn't on the forums yet. It's a lot less expensive in the long run to replace the axles.
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01-08-2011, 11:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 524
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If you are concerned about the condition of the axles, it is time to replace them.
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Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
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01-08-2011, 11:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 973
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Even if you are not concerned, unless they were replaced in the last 25 years, it's time to replace them.
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01-09-2011, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 848
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Like you I wondered about the axle on my 65. I did the test described on the Inland RV site (look under articles - axles on their website) and sure enough mine did not work at all. Replaced it and it completely transformed the ride. It rides very smooth now and sits about 3" higher. The job is not very hard to do. The hardest part for me was getting the old bolts out.
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TAC MI 14
Everyday is a Saturday
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01-09-2011, 09:42 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
Adel
, Iowa
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
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Ok so I will need to replace the axles. But do they come with complete with the breaks and bearings? Or do you have to buy everything ala carte? Approx. so I dont get sticker shocked how much do they cost?
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01-09-2011, 09:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
Adel
, Iowa
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
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Does anyone know once they are ordered how long does it take to get to me. And what information from the axles do you need to have. Do you need the sticker on the axle or the make, model, and year? And where is the best place to get them? And who will stand behind their product better?
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01-09-2011, 09:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 848
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Contact Andy at Inland RV. He was a great help to me when I replaced my axle. I ordered it with 12" brakes complete. I was able to make a road trip to the factory and saved a couple hundred shipping.
You could also try:
I have been supplying Axis axles to Airstreamers since 2005 and will continue to do so. If you check the Summer issue of Airstream Life (page 53) you'll see that I put a pair of Axis axles on Project "Vintage Thunder", back when I was affilliated with GSM. Axis axles were also installed on Project "Vintage Lightning" for Matthew McConaughey a couple of years later.
With the recent acquisition of the Henschen brand, my business, Colin Hyde Trailer Restorations can now also supply both Axis and Henschen axles, specifically tuned to suit any Airstream application. I have also installed Axis torsion axles on earlier "Leaf spring" type suspended Airstream's.
You'll see my ad in the Spring 2011 issue of Airstream Life.
Thanks,
Colin
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TAC MI 14
Everyday is a Saturday
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01-09-2011, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Or save some money and drop your current axles off to a local Dexter dealer there in Iowa. Then after a week or so go pick up your new axles. Choose one that says "stocks axle beams." Just be sure to take the GVWR and axle info from the plates with you (if it isn't stamped right on the axle) so they know which capacity axle to build you.
Dexter can supply you with replacement 10" or 12" drum brakes and bearings, pre-instaqlled and lubed (like everyone else does, too)...
Dexter's Iowa dealer network
You'll find them a few hundred dollars cheaper "all in" than Inland RV.
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01-09-2011, 10:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
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I ordered mine through Andy at Inland RV. For an idea of what is involved, I posted a thread http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...ion-72600.html showing how I did it.
The hardest part was getting the old bolts off. I ordered mine complete with new brakes on the axles.
Good Luck.
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1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
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01-09-2011, 05:16 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
Adel
, Iowa
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
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Thank you to all of you who have posted replies on here. I really appreciate your advice on this subject.
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01-12-2011, 07:28 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
Adel
, Iowa
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
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I checked into Dexter axles and we can buy 2 axles from Dexter for the about the price of 1 from Inland RV. Thanks for everyone's info..
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01-12-2011, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airstrmkids
I checked into Dexter axles and we can buy 2 axles from Dexter for the about the price of 1 from Inland RV. Thanks for everyone's info..
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More importantly, what size brakes will you have with the Dexters?
The originals were 12 inch brakes.
Andy
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01-13-2011, 04:58 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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There is also concern about the quality of Dexter torsion axles. I have come across recent posts (other forums) about premature wear/shortened lifespan.
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01-13-2011, 06:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,107
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From Dexter
Quote:
Originally Posted by REDNAX
There is also concern about the quality of Dexter torsion axles. I have come across recent posts (other forums) about premature wear/shortened lifespan.
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Dexter's response: "As far as the rubber being bad we have not had any instance since we began producing the Torflex axle in mid 1984 where the rubber was bad. The overloading of the axle in a static or dynamic load can cause the rubber to shred."
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