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Old 05-02-2005, 05:18 PM   #99
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Lou, I got a couple of questions:

1. What size drum is that, it certainly doesn't look like a 12" Dexter drum? I thought maybe it was a 10" drum, but I didn't think those came in a 6 X 5.50" bolt circle.

2. If the shocks come with 17 valves (yada,yada), is that for a case of 24? What about the 7 guys that didn't get a valve? Did you check to see if your shocks had valves?
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:23 PM   #100
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Henschen axles "DO NOT" cost $800.00.

They cost $500.00, plus additional if brakes and hubs and drums are needed.

Comparing prices is great as long as the same apple is priced out.

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You are right Andy - but I think if you look close at this thread people are stating "complete" meaning axle with brakes, hubs and drums. As well as it was stated at the begining of this thread that the full package was being installed - so I assume all will be comparing apples to apples.

The Jury for us is out at the moment and want to see the results of this venture.

One opinion expressed in this thread is about the use of various shocks - we have decided to stick with the "Airstream" shock rather than the Napa - as in laymans terms they are softer.

We know all about how our rig has just about busted apart not having uptodate running gear.

What ever the system used by Airstream I think people have to remember one thing - they are still on the road 45 years and more later!!! Many of theother trailers without the shocks and torsion axles have busted apart many years ago I would think
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:39 PM   #101
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Henschen axles "DO NOT" cost $800.00.

They cost $500.00, plus additional if brakes and hubs and drums are needed.

Comparing prices is great as long as the same apple is priced out.

Some owners don't mind the design hassle, others do. Some don't mind changing the Airstream design, most others do.

Keeping an Airstream, "all Airstream", including their choices of other components, seems to be the desire of most owners.

The "LONG" term results of those changes, are at this point, pure guesses, with no factual evidence.

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Well Andy, if you would read the entire thread you would see that the price IS including FULLY LOADED backing plates AND drums.
If you have something constructive to add please feel free to do so.
I am not going to let you ruin another post on me.
Please do not start a flame war here.
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axis axle

This Isn't A Design Change Its An Axle Made The Same As The Origional And It Includes The Brackets; Backing Plate And New Brakes
If That Is What I'm Understanding..
Looks Alot Like A Complete Axle Assembly .... I Think ... And It Looks Exactly Like The Airstream Axle.. it's intended to replace
.Most poeple that I come accross will admit that if something seems a bit high they will check around for a competitive price and if the product is comparable and the price is better what person wouldn't opt for saving a few hundred dollars. that is what most reasonable people that I know would do in fact that is probably what you do as well. Look for the best product price and servise and BAMM there you go....
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:08 AM   #103
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I should be able to know how the ride is with my new axle come this Wednesday. I am going to down to pick it up then.
As for the brakes; after talking it over with Henry from Axis Products I opted for the 10" brakes.
Henry would put whatever I wanted on it. 10" or 12". It does not matter to him as long as the trailer did not warrant 12" drums.
In my case, I had 10" drums on it. I put 10" drums back on it. Henry took an hour to explain why 10" drums are used and why 12" drums are used.
The GVWR of my Minuet did not reflect the need for 12" drums. I do not see the need to overkill it.
By the way, if anyone wants to know, my local Dexter dealer quoted me $75 each for fully loaded backing plates with drums, bearings and seals. If my math serves me correctly, that would be $150 total for fully loaded backing plates. Call your local Dexter dealer, they should have them readily available.
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:19 AM   #104
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Keep us Sovereign owners updated on the pricing and options. My axles are not due for replacement...yet, I still have a decent down angle and they seem to move okay. But I am sure down the road I will want to replace them, as well as look at an upgrade for the brakes

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My brother-in-law will be replacing the axles on the Sovereign that has been in the family since it was new, 1973.
He is going to have Axis give him a quote as well. Please let all of us know of your progress for the Sovereign replacements.
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:25 AM   #106
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Lou, this is astounding! Can you get me some contact info? Also, would you be willing to PM me and let me know how much approximately this should set back us single axle owners?

Also, how did your trailer handle in the snow?
Did you call Henry? Is he helping you out?
Have you been following the psots and pictures?
I think this is awesome!
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I just spent a while on the phone with Henry from Axis Products about their axles and what they can provide. I was very impressed with the different options available for finishes on the axles from hand painted waterbased paint all the way to a galvanized finish if thats what you want. There is a multitude of different brake systems available, electric to disk in different materials. I think that they can provide you with anything you might possibly want and seemed very responsive to satisfying any request the customer may have.
I am going to have them give me a quote on a pair of axles for my 31'.
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Mike,
Please keep us abreast of what is happening with your quote from Axis Products. I have to get a quote for the family Sovereign.
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Old 05-03-2005, 10:34 AM   #108
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The axle doctor has finished surgery!

Well gang!
Here is the finished product. At least, it is some close-up shots of the finished product.
The REAL test will come with the 200 mile trip home!
I should be down there tomorrow to pick it up!
Keep yer fingers crossed!
Take a look at the job they did. I think that it is well worth the money spent on an Axis Product axle!
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What it cost me for the axle!

I know that a lot of you have emailed and PM'd me wanting to know the cost of the axle.
Henry has just emailed me my DETAILED bill for the work done. Without going into all of the details the complete, LOADED axle with new brakes and drums was $249.00!
This was for the axle AND brakes AND drums. This did not include the water-tight bullet connectors for the brakes, the stainless steel hardware to mount everything to the trailer and the Safety-Lube spindles. Those are all little extras that Axis offers as added features. You can also choose what coating you want on your axle: hand-painted, e-coated or galvanized. My e-coating was done BEFORE the axle was assembled so that means the ENTIRE axle is coated.
But the same thing that you would get from SOB manufacturer, from Axis would be a flat $249.00. I do not think that would include shipping. I would not know, I had them install mine. No shipping involved in mine.
I am not sure if this is the true and accurate price for everyone but call Henry and find out.
Tell him, "I want mine for what Lou paid!"
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Sovereign axle quote

For those of you who asked, sorry I haven't done this earlier. I have been gone riding and camping for the last three days.

Axis Products quoted me the following prices for the options I wanted.

4000# axle with Safe-T-Lube spindle, 22.5 degrees down arm, E-coated axle, 12" drums and backing plates, 6 lug on 5.5" centers, shock brackets $288.30 each

3700# axle with Safe-t-Lube spindle, 22.5 degees down arm, E-coated axle and 12" Kodiak disk brakes, 6 lug on 5.5" centers, shock brackets, $311.13 each

4000# axle with Safe-T-Lube spindle, 22.5 degrees down arm, E-coated axle and 12" Kodiak disk brakes, 6 lug on 5.5" centers, shock brackets $363.08 each
I am currently checking on freight cost to California
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Boy, those are some reasonable prices.

He really IS the axleman.
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Boy, those are some reasonable prices.

He really IS the axleman.
The "Axleman" cometh!
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