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Old 04-25-2005, 06:22 PM   #15
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Replacement axles

I just spent a while on the phone with Henry from Axis Products about their axles and what they can provide. I was very impressed with the different options available for finishes on the axles from hand painted waterbased paint all the way to a galvanized finish if thats what you want. There is a multitude of different brake systems available, electric to disk in different materials. I think that they can provide you with anything you might possibly want and seemed very responsive to satisfying any request the customer may have.
I am going to have them give me a quote on a pair of axles for my 31'.
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I don't think I'm giving away any secrets, but 'axleman' on this forum is the guy from Axis Products.
http://www.axisproducts.com/
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This sounds very interesting.

We were looking into both the Dexter from several trailer dealers and the OEM Henschen from Inland RV.

One of the main questions we are facing with ours is the weight rating of the axle.

For the minuets and the caravels - the 3500# axle is fine - however the Globe Trotter Original Duro-Torque Axle was rated 4000# and the OEM replacement is also 4000# (also available in a 4500# if you want to carry a bit more cargo). This gives the trailer 750# cargo/liquids - but if we put a 3500# axle on her that gives us 250# cargo/liquids. Our trailer weighed about 3380#with no liquids - just a big of cargo in her.

All other axles we have found as a possible replacement jump from 3500# which we think is not enough to 5200 - 6000# which is too much and we have been told that it will be way to stiff and break her apart almost as bad as the dead axle in her now.

Can anyone shed some light as to where we would stand with the Axis Torsion axle?

The price for the Axle at Inland is $800 US complete for 10" - we also had a price of $150 for shipping (which was very reasonable). So would our axle requirement also be 2/3's of the above price?

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We can all say thanks to Lou for taking his axel to Indiana in a FREAK SNOW STORM on a sunday .... so that everyone of us can benefit from his labors .... I wish I could have done it....
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This sounds very interesting.

We were looking into both the Dexter from several trailer dealers and the OEM Henschen from Inland RV.

One of the main questions we are facing with ours is the weight rating of the axle.

For the minuets and the caravels - the 3500# axle is fine - however the Globe Trotter Original Duro-Torque Axle was rated 4000# and the OEM replacement is also 4000# (also available in a 4500# if you want to carry a bit more cargo). This gives the trailer 750# cargo/liquids - but if we put a 3500# axle on her that gives us 250# cargo/liquids. Our trailer weighed about 3380#with no liquids - just a big of cargo in her.

All other axles we have found as a possible replacement jump from 3500# which we think is not enough to 5200 - 6000# which is too much and we have been told that it will be way to stiff and break her apart almost as bad as the dead axle in her now.

Can anyone shed some light as to where we would stand with the Axis Torsion axle?

The price for the Axle at Inland is $800 US complete for 10" - we also had a price of $150 for shipping (which was very reasonable). So would our axle requirement also be 2/3's of the above price?

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I would call and talk with Henry at Axis Products.
His contact info is: 574-266-8282.
I would agree with your assessment of an axle that is rated for more weight than the trailer was designed to carry.
I have gone with a 3500# axle as I am sure this will be within the window of what the body was designed to handle from road stress, etc...
Henry would be a better source of information.
I would have to say that the 2/3 for the price would still apply. Do not quote me, as I am not Axis Products. I am just a restoration nut. I do my research, find a good price on a quality product and then act upon it.
This is the first time I have dealt with Axis Products. I have seen that they supply torsion axles to a number of popular manufacturers as their OEM axles.
They actually make torsion axles for heavy farm tractors. I figured if they can make a torsion axle that supports 10,000 lbs. then they should be able to make one that supports a lot less than that.
If you would like to visit their website, which is how I found them, the address is posted right above in another forum member's post.
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We can all say thanks to Lou for taking his axel to Indiana in a FREAK SNOW STORM on a sunday .... so that everyone of us can benefit from his labors .... I wish I could have done it....
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angles?

Would someone please explain to me the significance and meaning of the "degree drop/down angle"?

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Would someone please explain to me the significance and meaning of the "degree drop/down angle"?

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Here is a link to a Dexter brochure that explains the drop angle. It really means, "How far down is the spindle form the top of the spindle bracket".
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1080235/f/6-8K%...ation_4-04.pdf
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Lou, we are glad to see that others have found alternative sources for the parts and services we need to keep our trailers roadworthy. Competition is a good thing. See our post under the Argosy trailer section, Minuette 6.7 metre Low Rider. The search goes on.
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Lou, we are glad to see that others have found alternative sources for the parts and services we need to keep our trailers roadworthy. Competition is a good thing. See our post under the Argosy trailer section, Minuette 6.7 metre Low Rider. The search goes on.
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Larry,
I pulled up some of your old posts. I saw the inserts you used.
Henry at Axis has those as well! I thought they were cool. He said the same thing, that they are made by Goodyear.
I was not sure if they had been used on an Airstream or Argosy so I was a bit hesitant.
COuld you post some more photos of your trailer?
As for competition being a good thing... If you have no competition then the prices get raised until only the elite, or foolish, will purchase the product.
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Well, I have some more pictures of the progress Axis Products has made with my axle.
I got a phone call from Henry at Axis Products this morning and he said that he was ready to make my new brackets when he got an idea. The idea was to look through his stock of brackets and see if there are any that are an exact replacement for my bracket.
Lo and behold he found that he has a large quantity of these brackets. This will save all of us money in the long run. Henry mentioned that he has these readily available.
Obviously, if Axis Products has a standard bracket that is nearly identical to the one that is on the old axle already then Henschen cannot be using a magic bracket that no one else uses.
Here are a couple of pictures that Henry sent me. The one picture is taken at a funny angle and makes it look like the bracket is smaller on one end and larger on the other. This is just because of the angle the picture was taken at.
I am so geeked!
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We have uploaded and posted additional pictures under Member Photos of our trailer. Competition also drives product development. Competition is a good thing I'll have to dig some more to find additional pictures of our axel install. See you in September. What dates?
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Competition also drives product development. Competition is a good thing
Sort of like...
We make the axle AND we make it better.
Info on the forums gathering will be forthcoming in the related thread. I cannot wait to see your trailer! When Henry showed me the set-up you have I was excited about it but hestitant to go with something I had little information about.
What weight rating did you go with?
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Are the side holes the same too?

Lou, is there any way to have Henry post the dimentions of the bracket (i.e, length, center of hole is x cm from ends, etc) so that we can check to see if this bracket (which I'm fairly certain it is) is the same on other trailers? I'd like to get some axles too - but Indiana is a pretty far distance from the NW (any distributers or installers of Axis around here?)

I'm sure my 26ft Argosy would use a wider axle (my trailer is 8ft wide vs. the Minuet 7.5 ft width), but otherwise, I'm sure they're about the same. Do you know the length of the torson drop "bar" (distance from axle to spindle, center to center?)
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