Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-13-2007, 06:47 AM   #15
Rivet Master
 
3Ms75Argosy's Avatar
 
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
Images: 7
$600 complete should be about right...

I've been doing the mulling and head scratching too...

#10 Dexters WITH #11 spindles (need the smaller 2.5" square axle tube for my Argosy) BARE without the shock bracket (I called Dexter engineering regarding the shock bracket "we no longer sell them with airstream brackets.." was what I was told...) is about $430.... no shipping cost. Only one dealer in the Seattle area, so no shopping around possible.

Henschen BARE is $500.00 + shipping (figure around +/- $120.00 per axle for me in the NW) with the shock bracket.. no drilling required. I can't weld, and don't feel like shlepping my old axles around to find someone to take the old brackets off and weld the new ones on.

I'm going with disk brakes... I wish Andy was closer, as the difference in axle price would almost pay for 2/3 of the disks....

I think I'm going with the Henschens, but my mind changes daily.

Oh yeah, Andy can get them out to me right away, Dexter is a 6 week wait.
Marc
__________________

__________________
3Ms75Argosy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 11:35 AM   #16
1 Rivet Member
 
1972 27' Overlander
Greenwood , South Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 12
Marc, What is difference in #11 vs #10, other than drums. As far as I can tell the #10 a pretty good fit for my trailer. I've drug this thing around for 30 years with no problem except that my axles are now beginning to droop. The Dexter people don't seem to think that the shocks are needed with this type axle. I replaced mine in 1982 and then it seemed to not change anything. If there is anyway to support Andy, I want to do it; however, sacrificing the old SS check for two axles is just too big for me to bite-off.

SM
__________________

__________________
smead42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 11:58 AM   #17
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
Oh yeah, Andy can get them out to me right away, Dexter is a 6 week wait.
Marc
FYI, at least in my case, is "right away" meant I still had to wait 3-4 weeks to get them shipped to me.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 12:33 PM   #18
a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
 
Safari Tim's Avatar
 
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern , California
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
Images: 35
I've been researching Dexter axles for several weeks now. With help from Uwe, Colin, and Dexter engineering, I've learned a lot.

I'm switching from my leaf springs to torsion axles with disc brakes.

I'm also going with a #10 axle with 5200# spindles, Dexter calls these "A" spindles. The difference in the #11, is the number 11 is a larger tube and can only be de-rated to 3500# according to the guy in engineering I talked with. That is why I had to go with the #10 to get the 3000lb rating I wanted. BUT, like Marc, I used the 5200# spindles with the 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern.

The rest of my specs are:

disc brakes
EZ lube
32 degree down trail
3000lb RC
Low profile - reverse mount brackets
side mount hangers
__________________
-Tim
1960 International Ambassador 28'
2001 Silverado 2500HD CC 6.0L 4.10
Check out my book: Restoring a Dream
Check out my Airstream book for kids!: Airstream Adventures
theVAP - Airstream Podcast
Safari Tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 12:38 PM   #19
Moderator dude
 
Action's Avatar

 
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,066
Images: 13
SM,

You are correct in that Dexter does not feel shocks are necessary. The smaller axle will have the capacity to carry the weight of most units and will have the smaller drums and bearings/spindles. They will also have a smaller wheel because of the bolt pattern of the drums. All in all it is a lighter axle than the larger one.

For me I would want the stopping ability of the larger brakes and the mass of the larger spindle and bearings. This is how A/S built my unit. It may be over done and I am willing to over do it again. (And I want a little more capacity for my replacements)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action
__________________
1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
Action is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 12:50 PM   #20
a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
 
Safari Tim's Avatar
 
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern , California
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
Images: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Action
SM,
...
For me I would want the stopping ability of the larger brakes and the mass of the larger spindle and bearings. This is how A/S built my unit. It may be over done and I am willing to over do it again. (And I want a little more capacity for my replacements)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action
All you do is spec the Type "A" 5200lb spindle and you get the bigger brakes and 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern so you can use the original wheels....
__________________
-Tim
1960 International Ambassador 28'
2001 Silverado 2500HD CC 6.0L 4.10
Check out my book: Restoring a Dream
Check out my Airstream book for kids!: Airstream Adventures
theVAP - Airstream Podcast
Safari Tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:13 PM   #21
1 Rivet Member
 
1972 27' Overlander
Greenwood , South Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 12
Ok, let me make certain that I understand this. To get 3200# rated axle, you have to spec. the Dexter #10. Even though you can get the 6 lug 5.5 bolt circle on the #10, you order the 5200 lb. spindle (of the #11) with 12" drums to get bigger spindle, larger drums, and larger bearings. The reversed bracket is needed, but you will still need to drill the bracket or frame to get the axle in the proper position. There is not a problem fitting the larger drums to the standard wheels, right?

If this is correct, the larger drums, spindles, and brakes really jack up the price, a lot!

SM
__________________
smead42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:30 PM   #22
Rivet Master
 
wkerfoot's Avatar
 
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange , California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by smead42
Ok, let me make certain that I understand this. To get 3200# rated axle, you have to spec. the Dexter #10. Even though you can get the 6 lug 5.5 bolt circle on the #10, you order the 5200 lb. spindle (of the #11) with 12" drums to get bigger spindle, larger drums, and larger bearings. The reversed bracket is needed, but you will still need to drill the bracket or frame to get the axle in the proper position. There is not a problem fitting the larger drums to the standard wheels, right?

If this is correct, the larger drums, spindles, and brakes really jack up the price, a lot!

SM
SM,

I don't think that the larger drums (12") are a problem because your trailer should already have 12" drums (now if you had 14" wheels instead of 15" this would be a problem). What I can gather in these coversations is that Dexter believes that 10" drums are sufficient for a trailer with a 3500# or less axle. Airstream on the other hand has 12" drums on this size of an axle. Airstream specs larger brakes and shocks while Dexter thinks smaller brakes and no shocks works.

Bill
__________________
Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA

http://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
wkerfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 09:27 PM   #23
Rivet Master
 
3Ms75Argosy's Avatar
 
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
Images: 7
price..

you have to compare compatable prices. Tim's price includes Disk brakes, not the drums. His deal is fantastic.....

Per my dealer....
#10 axles (at 3200#'s) with #11 spindles BARE (no brakes) is around $400
Dexter disks are roughly $300 per wheel ($600 per axle) per the Dexter website and my dealer. I get that some dealer price their axles differently.... read the forums and you'll get a cornicopia of prices. Unfortuenely, there's only one Dexter dealer in the NW. No shocks with these axles.

Henschen prices (bare) are close to the prices I've found.... see above. Shock mounts included, no drilling. Shipping is the one difference...

Your trailer came with 12" drums. No need to replace the wheels.
Marc
__________________
3Ms75Argosy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2007, 11:23 AM   #24
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
FYI, at least in my case, is "right away" meant I still had to wait 3-4 weeks to get them shipped to me.
Terry.

Your axles had to be created, plus your on the east coast.

We have a in house stock of over 40 Henschen axles, that can be shipped immediately.

In your case, the freight cost from the west coast to the east coast, would far exceed that from Ohio.

Generally speaking, our inventory is for the west coast owners, so that the freight is minimized.

But we will ship to the east coast from California, if someone can handle the freight issue.

Try "air freight" from coast to coast for an axle. It's outrageous.

Andy
__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 02:16 PM   #25
Airstreamin' in Canada
 
1973 27' Overlander
Waterdown , Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 44
Images: 5
Just as a follow-up, I went with axles from Dexter that were ordered and installed by one of the local trailer shops that I have come to trust. He did away with the shock, and they had to do some welding to get the axles on correctly.

Wow! What a difference in ride and handling. The trailer actually bounces when you jump in it - ok, when my kids do...hehe

Anyways they went up a bit in weight capacity, but it seems to be a good fit. And much less expensive than the direct replacement.
__________________
mlang905 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2007, 10:10 AM   #26
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlang905
Just as a follow-up, I went with axles from Dexter that were ordered and installed by one of the local trailer shops that I have come to trust. He did away with the shock, and they had to do some welding to get the axles on correctly.

Wow! What a difference in ride and handling. The trailer actually bounces when you jump in it - ok, when my kids do...hehe

Anyways they went up a bit in weight capacity, but it seems to be a good fit. And much less expensive than the direct replacement.
Leaving shocks off of an Airstream that was designed to use shocks?

According to Airstream engineers, especially for the older trailers, you "will" be sorry in time. Lack of them will contribute to rear end separation, that brand "X" dealers don't even know about, and for that matter, some Airstream dealers don't either.

Shocks were put there for a purpose. Leaving them off, defeats that purpose.

I am amazed of how many dealers are smarter than the engineers at Airstream.

Probably some of those same dealers don't believe in balancing wheels, or load equalizing hitches, or sway controls, either.

Andy
__________________

__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Duratorque Axle Replacement Andy R Axles 18 03-19-2017 09:54 PM
Water heater replacement Craig Water Heaters, Filters & Pumps 36 12-18-2014 10:13 AM
Travel on 1 axle. Over59 Axles 6 04-18-2004 05:22 PM
Accordian Door Replacement Tamara Upholstery, Blinds, Walls & Interior Finishes 2 06-17-2002 01:08 PM
61 Bambi Panel Replacement 61BambiCanada Ribs, Skins & Rivets 0 06-07-2002 10:41 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.