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Old 02-17-2011, 08:31 AM   #1
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Organizing a group buy to encourage dexter.

I am interested in seeing how many folks out there would like to take part in a group buy with dexter axle. As it stands right now, for me it is too questionable to purchase their axles considering the brake size issue as well as the bolt pattern issue.

But on the other hand, since they are much more affordable and they have a factory near me I would be thrilled if they would just be encouraged to take the jump on making the perfect axles for us.

I'm not sure how many confirmed buyers they will need, but considering the number of members out there like me who might like a more affordable option I thought I would ask.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:01 AM   #2
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I am interested in seeing how many folks out there would like to take part in a group buy with dexter axle. As it stands right now, for me it is too questionable to purchase their axles considering the brake size issue as well as the bolt pattern issue.

But on the other hand, since they are much more affordable and they have a factory near me I would be thrilled if they would just be encouraged to take the jump on making the perfect axles for us.

I'm not sure how many confirmed buyers they will need, but considering the number of members out there like me who might like a more affordable option I thought I would ask.
I just got a quote from Colin Hyde and was thrilled with everything in the package. The concern over the cost of axles was one of the things that put me on the fence about buying my airstream. I am placing my order next week. If it goes as well as I expect, I may just buy another trailer. Of course, now I have to figure out what wheels and tires to buy since I have the old split rims.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:12 AM   #3
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I have put Dexter axles on two airstream trailers.

What are you trying to order that you're not getting?

Indeed I would look at Axis Axles now if I were doing the job again but I have been more than happy with the Dexters. They weren't available when I did the first axle job and didn't have the better down angle option I wanted with the second axle job.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:34 AM   #4
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To clarify, I spoke with the engineering dept and they said the 12" brake is already in the works but that the cost of creating the tooling to make them bolt on to axles prior to when they started making the oem axles for airstream costs too much.

Maybe with a large number of confirmed buyers they will o ahead with the investment in the tooling.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:51 AM   #5
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I have put Dexter axles on two airstream trailers.

What are you trying to order that you're not getting?

Indeed I would look at Axis Axles now if I were doing the job again but I have been more than happy with the Dexters. They weren't available when I did the first axle job and didn't have the better down angle option I wanted with the second axle job.
From perusing the archives concerning axle choices I read that the 3500 pound axles 1) require drilling and welding 2) make you downgrade to a 10" brake.

I just hate to compromise and think it would be great if they would just make it fit and work perfect.
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Old 02-17-2011, 10:48 AM   #6
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this is one of the very FEW attempts at a group buy thread here...

it's sorta odd that it happens so rarely, given how often these occur on most enthusiast forums.

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still

u might check with the a/s customer service/parts folks...

triple axle trailers get 3500 or 3800 lb alxes (i think) and come with 12 ? inch brakes...

at least they did while still in regular production.

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Fishnfly,
Last year I put Dexter's on my trailer which seems to be the same trailer you have according to your profile.
Yes I did have to bore out 4 holes on the axle mounting plates and weld on the shock mounts. It wasn't a big deal for me because I have the tools. The shock mounts that Dexter provided are engineered for the 22.5* axle. I ordered them loose so I could place the mounts in the correct position.
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I ordered:
  • #11 axle - this was an upgrade to the original. Everything was smaller on the old axle. The new axle comes with larger tube, larger outer wheel bearings and larger spindle.
  • 12" electric drum brakes (the original axles only had 10" brakes)
  • Went from a 3,250 lb axle to a 3,500 lb axle (3,500 is the most you can de-rate a #11 axle.)
  • 32.5* down angle
I'm not saying you have to order the Dexter's since there is a viable and probably better alternative with Axis now. It was a different game last year.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:51 PM   #8
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I just talked with Dexter and Axis for replacement beams for my 78 Tradewind with disc brakes. I met the Dexter guys in Elkhart, they are real good and know their stuff. They couldn't, however, downrate their #11 beam to 3,000 lbs. I needed their #11 beam to give me the correct spindle size to re-use the original airstream disc brakes.

Dexter sales v.p. told me they were evaluating the vintage airstream replacement market (1978) to determine if it was big enough to warrant their investment to get into it.

I then talked with Axis (they are in Elkhart IN as well). Axis has the old Airstream drawings. They built my beams as drop-in replacements. Holes the correct location, shock mount welded on, 3,000 lb rating, big spindles for the original disc brakes.

I worked with Shannon Mowery at Axis customer service. She is pretty good to work with.

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:15 AM   #9
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I started the process of contacting axis. How does their price compare to henschen?
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Henschen does not exist any more. Some of manufacturing machinery was sold off to Axis.

Getting a group order is a function typically done by a distributorship, dealership or retailer. It has not been profitable for a company to do so because one does not exist.

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Action, thanks for letting me know. It doesn't look like there is much interest anyway. If there was interest I didn't want to manage it, just to be able to advise dexter that if they put the money into the tooling so we can buy bolt ins that are half price of henschen we will make their investment worth it.
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I am interested in seeing how many folks out there would like to take part in a group buy with dexter axle. As it stands right now, for me it is too questionable to purchase their axles considering the brake size issue as well as the bolt pattern issue.

But on the other hand, since they are much more affordable and they have a factory near me I would be thrilled if they would just be encouraged to take the jump on making the perfect axles for us.

I'm not sure how many confirmed buyers they will need, but considering the number of members out there like me who might like a more affordable option I thought I would ask.
They have a factory near here? I live in ATL too. Would like to hear more. Also there is an Axis dealer in Cumming I have heard about Country Boy Trailers.
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Action, thanks for letting me know. It doesn't look like there is much interest anyway. If there was interest I didn't want to manage it, just to be able to advise dexter that if they put the money into the tooling so we can buy bolt ins that are half price of henschen we will make their investment worth it.
They would no longer be half the price, since Axis will allow others to sell their axles, and the new post-"exclusive one dealer only" prices are much more in line with Dexter.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:43 AM   #14
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That is great to hear if the prices have come down. I will be getting back to the axis rep soon.

http://www.dexteraxle.com/our_locations
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